i for one wish EKI would change there terminology as to the grinds because imho regardless of what they wanna call them they arent a conventional "v" grind like say on a plain edge spyderco delica, to me thats a conventional "V" grind, imho it causes a lot of confusion for folks, and of course i realise they are mostly technically correct in the description, mostly lol.
not that i dont like the grinds, not the case, but imho they dont cut like, you dont sharpen them like a conventional "v".
& EKI does not make a conventional "v" grind like described above, the '12 is imho the closest to that and its not quite a conventional "v".
personally, imho they should move to a more conventional grind as imho the way they grind offers no advantages over a std "v", none i can think of anyway.
and again, they arent bad, i just think they would be better w/a std grind.