CS Voyager Vaquero Medium (ever in BD1?)

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First time I pulled this little cuss out of my pocket it caught and I had that sensation that it was waving on me. What the . . . ? ? ?

Wow that could be dangerous, wasn’t expecting that ! ! ! ! . . . and . . . it caught on my pants and didn’t fully open / let go of the pocket.

Waaaaaaait . . . do that again . . . yep that’s what it was doing.

Anybody else have this ? Is it just me ?
Did you wind up shortening / removing the thumb stud on the inside facing your leg so it would stop hooking on your pants ? I mean since the point of the knife is such a hooked end it is not desirable to wave this knife; it can hook on your pants . . . at least destroying your pants . . . at worst causing some of your precious bodily fluids to leak out.

Some photos of the knife and the prob.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE BD1 ? Did they ever make this in BD1 ? I bought mine in AUS8 and feel fortunate to have found what appears to be one of the last brand new / off the shelf examples still in the wild. On mine the lettering on the blade bears no indication of the steel type; I’m just going by the vendor’s description.




Note how the thumb stud on the inside is now caught on the seam of my pants and pulling the seam back.


Riding the wave. Cool so far


AAAAAnnnnnnnd the tip digs into the leg of my pants and all comes to an embarrassing halt.
 
Wowbagger said:
Did you wind up shortening / removing the thumb stud on the inside facing your leg
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Wait . . . that was a STUPID question; I need that to open the knife. Unless I two hand it.
Come to that I need to two hand it to close it. I may have to overhaul the Triad lock so I can one hand it. No surprise there.

It may sound like I don't like the knife. I think I could really like this knife and find the short(ish) nogalis edge fascinating so . . . no . . . over all I think I like this knife. Take a bit of getting use to though.
 
They discoed it before the bd1. I like the xl fully serrated. Very nasty
 
As much as I like the XL AUS8 one, there is nothing that gets close to the awesomeness of the old Vaquero Grande

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Wowbagger said:
it caught and I had that sensation that it was waving on me
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Aaahaw . . . from my photos above I discovered what is going on. I have worn a hole in the top of the pocket and the thumb stud can get caught in this hole and that waves the knife. I was thinking that little seam wasn’t much to have the thumb stud catch that well on.
 
ThePeacent said:
As much as I like the XL AUS8 one, there is nothing that gets close to the awesomeness of the old Vaquero Grande
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Still those are ginormous !
Kind of makes me feel inadequate with my medium . . . however it was enough to scare off a black bear in my driveway at four in the morning this morning. I didn’t even have to deploy it he must have spotted it in my pocket. Yet another argument against low ride clips.

. . . errrrr . . . I suppose . . . he may have found the fact that someone was shining a super bright light in his eyes and attempting to take photographs of him while he was eating breakfast and hadn’t combed his fur yet could have been the other reason he ducked around the corner of the house.

The official press release will be the former . . . you never heard the latter.
 
This is turning into another 'bagger blog.
This little devil has the quintessential Cold Steel back lock / Triad lock; after using it for a while one feels like they need to carry a trampoline so as to get a better leap with both feet onto the lock release.

I am here to put the fallacy to rest once and all that leaving the knife part closed / part open over night makes the spring rate less. I have taken this to the max by clamping a round object in the thumb cut out for the release and so am able to depress the release bar to the bottom of the cut out.

And for those with a scientific bent that demands documented, fact based, factual stuff (that would also include me) . . . I just want you to know there will be none of that here. Partly because I am feeling lazy and partly because I don't have a good way of measuring the force needed to operate the lock before and after. That would require thinking and my mind is out for repairs . . . we are running purely on the EPROM start up chip here today

Before this I lubed the pivots, blade and lock bar, to the max and all the other surfaces that could possibly contributing any friction. Hahahaha after that I depressed the lock bar many times and then later heard a little vibrating creak as if opening an old basement door. This was where the hook engages the notch in the blade. Probably a bit of roughness there. I must say that overall the finish of the parts are very nice, very nice in deed, considering the price of one of these knives.

As some of you know I have been all about the Spyderco Ouroboros (Boris for short).
Some thoughts in comparison : (oh and the only reason I am all over this little Voyager NOW is I pounced on it when I found one during one of my searches. If it had been redly available I would have waited a while to buy but a month or two ago I became determined to try one out.

I found it in the virtual basement of one of the regular on line knife vendors here (a regular word search wouldn't list it for some reason). It was "on display" in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

But I found one and that's the point).

. . . and back to the comparison Boris to the Vaquero :
if you ever want to appreciate a compression lock compare these two knives
if you ever want to appreciate phosphor bronze washers compare these two knives (especially with the clamp in place; the free swing of the blade of the Voyager, keeping in mind the Voyager sold for less than a third the price of the Ouroboris, is eye opening).

I like and enjoy both knives but man are they different ! ! ! !
Kind of like comparing a race horse and a clydesdale . . . only both horses have some how surreptitiously swapped parts and now there is no telling the purpose, rhyme or reason behind it all.

by the way here is the magic transformation in progress :

exciting, play by play updates to follow !
 
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aaaannnnnndWe"reBack :

First off I was sure I would have zero success with the leave half closed over night thing.
So much so I started wishing the knife was back in my pocket so I went looking for threads here that agreed with me and I found just that.
So
I released the clamp and popped the sucker back on my pocket.
Next time I used the thumb lever lock release . . . you guessed it . . . it released easier.
Hmmmmmmmm
I put the clamp back on and went to bed.
Next day at work it released way well
but
I was sitting on the couch arm pretty much out stretched (read less grip strength in this position) and I couldn't release it; at least not several times smoothly.
Back on the clamp.
tonight it is even easier. Can release it on the couch.
Hmmmmm
all I can say is I did over travel the spring by forcing the lever further into the handle than required to just release the lock. See the rubber coated thing (shrader valve stem).
I'm still convinced that if I had just left the knife half open I wouldn't be enjoying the success I am today. (with the lock release force reduction).

WARNING : anyone trying this; point the handle of the knife downward some; other wise it is easy for the blade to swing far enough and hard enough to cut the back of your fingers when it swings into them.

I like the knife. Glad I tracked it down.
 
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