Do you guys still like the compresion lock?

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Pergatory

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Hello,
I'm sure I will be considering purchasing the Vesuvias in the near future. Now that many of you have had a chance to use the Guntig as a daily carry, I was curious as to how the compression is holding up for you, and if you still like it? So, what are your impressions after having used it awhile? Thanks.

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" -Hari Seldon, Foundation, -Aasimov
 
I love the compression lock! I can't wait for it to be used on more and more Spyderco's. It has been very strong and positive so far. Also very simple and easy to release.The Gunting has it on the spine of the knife. I am pretty sure the Vesuvius
has it on the inside which I would like a lot...No complaints here.

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Actually, I think the Vesuvius will also have the compression lock on the spine of the knife, but on the right hand side as opposed to the left.
 
The compression lock is stronger than a regular liner lock, but it doesn't eliminate the liner lock's greatest shortcoming: the inability to keep the blade closed in your pocket. Lockbacks have always done this well (probably a 20-degree arc of safety, if you will), and the Axis lock does it too, while being easy to open and close.
Even the Rolling Lock doesn't do a good job of this. The only locks I know of that safely keep the blade inside the handle for more than a 3-degree arc are good old lockbacks and the Axis lock.
 
Think of the children.

I am not interested in looking at reviews (already have) I am interested in your current thoughts on the lock to see if your opinion has changed over time. Thanks.

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" -Hari Seldon, Foundation, -Aasimov
 
Actually I just recently wrote the review after months of carrying my Gunting and it does reflect my current thoughts on the compression lock and how I've liked it over time.
 
It's my favorite lock. Simple and strong. I'd love to see it on other models.

The number of kinetic openings of my Gunting Drone seems almost abusive, but the lock is still perfect.
 
Thinkofthechildren,
my fault. Thanks for the info.
-edrozen

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" -Hari Seldon, Foundation, -Aasimov
 
I'll second what Steve said; I appreciate both its simplicity and strength. I do, however, agree with others who lament its inability to keep the blade in the handle as well as a lockback.
 
We wil work on the hold the blade issue..Part of it is the Kinetic - Kin-Op situation..force on the ramp is what breaks the force of the Compression lock acting as a ball detent..
Of course I have yet to open one in my pocket...I guess I'm acute;ly aware of the ramp and where it sits..so Iam a poor one to try to see the problem when I carry it.. I've carried Kin-Op knives for a very long time.

I'm sure we can increase the detent situation OR..folks tighten up your center pivot..make it tighter than you think is correct for NON Kin-Op knives...

since inertia openings are out of the question and being "really tight" does not hamper Kin-Op opening...

But THANK YOU to all of you for bearing with the birth and review of the Compression lock..its one tough lock...We got the strong part down pat..we got engagement down and a very cool release..and kept it simple..

Maybe some of you might want to try a holster..

thanks again!
 
Hey, I've been carrying my Gunting clipped to my pocket for, what, three months now, and I have hever had an unintended opening, in or out of my pocket. But, then I watched Bram's tape and am very aware of the fact that the "horn" can and will open the blade if you are careless with it. This leads me to two morals. Firstly, get and watch Bram's introductory tape, just as Terry insisted that I do. Well, the instructions are the tape. And, secondly, treat the Gunting with respect as you would any other potentially dangerous tool. I mean, would you go around waving a chainsaw carelessly around? Or stick a sharpened chisel into your pocket?



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Walk in the Light,
Hugh Fuller
 
From what source can an instruction tape by Bram on the Gunting be found?
Thanks,
Jim
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by James Y:
From what source can an instruction tape by Bram on the Gunting be found?
Thanks,
Jim</font>
Click to expand...

Give George Denson a call at 1-800-340-9664

There are 4 videos all together:
Spyderco presents the Gunting by Bram Frank
and The Gunting Vol. 1 - 3

I have all four and they're a must have!
 
"Spyderco Presents the Gunting" by Bram Frank is the tape to which I was referring. You might try Terry Prichard from whom I bought mine at prichard@datasync.com The tape is not so much a "how to use the Gunting in martial arts" tape as it is a familiarization course for what is, after all, a very different device from you everyday pocket knife. It shows you a number of basic MA moves with the knife, but I suspect that the training tapes show them better, and then it mostly goes through what to do, and what NOT to do with the knife. If you pay attention, most of the problems that have been discussed in these fora are addressed therein.


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Walk in the Light,
Hugh Fuller

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[This message has been edited by FullerH (edited 04-04-2001).]
 
Hi Pergatory. The Compression lock is a new concept with little history. As we continue to develop the concept, I'm sure you will see continual refinements as in all Spyderco does. What is going for it at this time is ultra simplicity (1 piece) and very good reliability and ultimate strength.

sal
 
Thanks for the info, Sal.
I just happened to have looked at the Guntig today, and that lock is quite a clever lock. And since you mentioned it, can you comment on some of the refinements that Spyderco has developed for this lock.


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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" -Hari Seldon, Foundation, -Aasimov
 
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