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fishing line with the most abrasion resistance?
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Ebbtide
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Mono is better around rocks than braid is.
There is a youtube demo out there somewhere...
Which mono?
Well, for my use striped bass fishing in a rocky environment its Berkley Trilene Big Game.
2nd choice is good ol' Ande.
Hope that helps some
There is a youtube demo out there somewhere...
Which mono?
Well, for my use striped bass fishing in a rocky environment its Berkley Trilene Big Game.
2nd choice is good ol' Ande.
Hope that helps some
I run almost all my reels in braided line for a few reasons that I'll lay out for you if you're interested in reading them.
For float and jig fishing, I can slather it up in silicone mucilin and the line will be fairly hydrophobic and float on top of the water. This makes it far easier to see, it makes it easy to flip the line over rocks or adjust the float, and the braided line has no stretch so when I set the hook all I have to do is taut the line and yank. You need to be careful not to let too much slack into the line or you may wrap the tip (and snap off on hook set or adjust). Since I use a very long rod to maintain optimal control over the float, and that rod is also relatively very light weight, having braided line on my reel also means that I can have more line in case I catch a big tough fish that I can not muscle in with that light rod. Braided line also lays straight rather than spiraling, so I have better control over long drifts.
For spinner fishing, the braided line telegraphs the movements of the spinner like no other line can do. I can feel if the blade is spinning, how fast it's spinning, and if it's beginning to snag on something, at which point I can adjust and possibly avoid a snag. Again, braided line does not spiral like mono, so I have more direct control over the spinner and a much better understanding of its location, also because of the bright color of the line.
For jetty and surf fishing, braided line is useful foremost in that it is bright and easy to see compared to mono. I can toss a jig or spinner (for example) into breakers and have an excellent idea of where the line is. Again, the line will telegraph the motions of the jig or spinner and likewise it won't spiral and confuse me or catch waves in weird ways. The much smaller diameter of the line also cuts down on water resistance that can take my bait to places I don't want it to be.
The most important feature for jetty fishing however might well be the fact that snagging out on the jetty is an extremely common event, and often the only thing to do is break off and tie on another bait. I usually run 40-60 pound braided line that is extremely slick and I cut off any frays that I find. All I have to do is yank, and I get my entire reel back minus the leader.
Which brings me to the most important element of fishing with braided line. While braided line is superior (IMO) in almost every way for almost every application, it is vastly inferior in the 2-10 feet closest to the fish or rocks. Fish can and do spot braided line as something very unusual and are much less likely to bite. Likewise, if you snag your spinner or jig tied directly to your braid, snapping off 65 pound line can be enough to break your reel or tip you over when it finally snaps. If braided line gets itself snagged badly on a rock, you're in for a ride. So you really really need to use a leader, and it's up to you and your application if you want to splice it directly onto the braid, tie it to a swivel or a ring, etc. I can not speak highly enough of braided line with a leader. The leader takes the brunt of abrasions and nicks, and gives just enough flexibility to not immediately rip the hook out of the fishes mouth upon set. From time to time I check my leader for abrasions and replace as necessary.
For murky moving water like ocean breakers, I might only use 2-5 feet of mono leader rated at my preferred breaking point, for example 10 pounds, while in a clear summer steelhead stream I might use 15 feet of very light flouro. Before flouro came down in price, I would sometimes tie my braided backer to 10 feet of mono, and then five feet of flouro tip leader.
Not only is the leader much harder to spot, but if I do snag, I can snap off with out trouble and tie on another leader.
I could go on, but I hope you get the point. I love braided line, and won't go back. The only reels I run solid mono (or flouro) on are quiet trout streams or places where I need to minimize every possible variable for spooking. For what it's worth, braided line is fantastic as a backer on fly rods in largest measure just because it gives you more length for diameter.
I've had good experiences with tuff-line, power-pro, spidewire, fireline, etc. I have no particularly memorable negative experiences, and have essentially no preference over brand, though I might lean a little to tuff-line and power-pro. For mono I'm a fan of stren and maxima but that is not a religion. Honestly I can't remember my impressions of the different flouros, I've got p-line in my bag right now, and I have no problems.
For float and jig fishing, I can slather it up in silicone mucilin and the line will be fairly hydrophobic and float on top of the water. This makes it far easier to see, it makes it easy to flip the line over rocks or adjust the float, and the braided line has no stretch so when I set the hook all I have to do is taut the line and yank. You need to be careful not to let too much slack into the line or you may wrap the tip (and snap off on hook set or adjust). Since I use a very long rod to maintain optimal control over the float, and that rod is also relatively very light weight, having braided line on my reel also means that I can have more line in case I catch a big tough fish that I can not muscle in with that light rod. Braided line also lays straight rather than spiraling, so I have better control over long drifts.
For spinner fishing, the braided line telegraphs the movements of the spinner like no other line can do. I can feel if the blade is spinning, how fast it's spinning, and if it's beginning to snag on something, at which point I can adjust and possibly avoid a snag. Again, braided line does not spiral like mono, so I have more direct control over the spinner and a much better understanding of its location, also because of the bright color of the line.
For jetty and surf fishing, braided line is useful foremost in that it is bright and easy to see compared to mono. I can toss a jig or spinner (for example) into breakers and have an excellent idea of where the line is. Again, the line will telegraph the motions of the jig or spinner and likewise it won't spiral and confuse me or catch waves in weird ways. The much smaller diameter of the line also cuts down on water resistance that can take my bait to places I don't want it to be.
The most important feature for jetty fishing however might well be the fact that snagging out on the jetty is an extremely common event, and often the only thing to do is break off and tie on another bait. I usually run 40-60 pound braided line that is extremely slick and I cut off any frays that I find. All I have to do is yank, and I get my entire reel back minus the leader.
Which brings me to the most important element of fishing with braided line. While braided line is superior (IMO) in almost every way for almost every application, it is vastly inferior in the 2-10 feet closest to the fish or rocks. Fish can and do spot braided line as something very unusual and are much less likely to bite. Likewise, if you snag your spinner or jig tied directly to your braid, snapping off 65 pound line can be enough to break your reel or tip you over when it finally snaps. If braided line gets itself snagged badly on a rock, you're in for a ride. So you really really need to use a leader, and it's up to you and your application if you want to splice it directly onto the braid, tie it to a swivel or a ring, etc. I can not speak highly enough of braided line with a leader. The leader takes the brunt of abrasions and nicks, and gives just enough flexibility to not immediately rip the hook out of the fishes mouth upon set. From time to time I check my leader for abrasions and replace as necessary.
For murky moving water like ocean breakers, I might only use 2-5 feet of mono leader rated at my preferred breaking point, for example 10 pounds, while in a clear summer steelhead stream I might use 15 feet of very light flouro. Before flouro came down in price, I would sometimes tie my braided backer to 10 feet of mono, and then five feet of flouro tip leader.
Not only is the leader much harder to spot, but if I do snag, I can snap off with out trouble and tie on another leader.
I could go on, but I hope you get the point. I love braided line, and won't go back. The only reels I run solid mono (or flouro) on are quiet trout streams or places where I need to minimize every possible variable for spooking. For what it's worth, braided line is fantastic as a backer on fly rods in largest measure just because it gives you more length for diameter.
I've had good experiences with tuff-line, power-pro, spidewire, fireline, etc. I have no particularly memorable negative experiences, and have essentially no preference over brand, though I might lean a little to tuff-line and power-pro. For mono I'm a fan of stren and maxima but that is not a religion. Honestly I can't remember my impressions of the different flouros, I've got p-line in my bag right now, and I have no problems.
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If you end up buying braided, get the same diameter line as you would for mono (say 10 lb test in mono is 0.9mm, idk lol then get oh lets say 50lb test in braided that's also 0.9mm.) It'll lay on your reel better, especially if you use a baitcaster. If you buy the equivelant of 10lb test, which is super thin braided it will lay over itself and cause snags on your reel.
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Here is the video I mentioned earlier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SqIsZaE6s&feature=related
I like braid, will still use mono for some stuff.
I won't use a mono leader that tests way lighter than my braid though.
The mono only has so much stretch in it... take it to the limit repeatedly and much like a rubberband it'll get weak.
Fishing the beach it is 30 lb braid and 60lb mono leader.
The 60lb mono leader makes a good handle as well... the braid will cut you like a steak knife.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-SqIsZaE6s&feature=related
I like braid, will still use mono for some stuff.
I won't use a mono leader that tests way lighter than my braid though.
The mono only has so much stretch in it... take it to the limit repeatedly and much like a rubberband it'll get weak.
Fishing the beach it is 30 lb braid and 60lb mono leader.
The 60lb mono leader makes a good handle as well... the braid will cut you like a steak knife.