Genesis I revisited

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Dr. Craig Merrell

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A few days ago I expressed my disappointments with the Genesis I: Hard to open, sharp edges in various places, off-center clip screw, etc. A little doctoring fixed the boo-boos. Cleaning (almost polishing) surface stuff (have no idea what it was) off of bronze washers and bushing helped opening problem, and polishing ball bearing down a little shorter helped the opening blade start up more easily. Complete disassembly and radiusing with a green dental polishing wheel on a dental engine got rid of all sharp edges everywhere. Re-tapping clip-mounting screw hole cured problem there. Hogging out the right-handed thumb-side handle groove to make it wider and more perpendicular to handle rather than at an angle helps in gaining better purchase on thumb stud for greater opening leverage. Made the trip to hardware store for smaller-sized Torx screws. Not too good. Tried three places before finding a place with any, and at an average of $5.00 per screwdriver. The good news about the bronze washers and bushing is that they're machined to close enough tolerances to allow for pretty fierce tightening of pivot screw without tightening the opening action, yet allow virtually no lateral play in the opened & locked blade. I've decided that the Genesis I is like a Colt Government model pistol: Out of the box it isn't all that great, but it's easily modified in any number of ways that really do add up to a more comfortably functional product.
 
Hmmm.. I have a similar problem with that surface stuff (gunk) that's preventing my Genesis from opening smoothly. If I listen close enough, I could even hear grinding noise during the pivoting of the blade.

Makes me want to open it to clean it, unfortunately, I could not find a torx screw that small...
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I wonder if WD-40 can clean out the mess without need for disassembling the entire knife?

Dan
 
Hmmmm. It shouldn't be necessary to go through what you did in order to get a knife that operates to your desires. My personal Genesis played pretty well out of the box. I've had a couple of bad ones come in but returned them for replacement.

I admire your enthusiasm for the work you did on the knife but I think I'd have just contacted EDI and asked them for a repair or replacement. They're quite good about that. At any rate, glade you got something finally that gets the job done for you. Take care.

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Fred
Knife Outlet
www.knifeoutlet.com

 
Thanks for the info, Joel. I will try to see if they ship international though, as I live in the Philippines, and we don't have those here, only hex wrenches.

Hmm.. so Torx #6 is the size for the smaller torx screws on the EDI, right? I can adjust the tension using a hex wrench, but I don't have smaller ones that will fit the smaller torx heads.

Thanks for the tip again!
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Dan
 
Fred, any idea what oil they're using on the Genesis? It looks kinda sticky, and grit catches on quite easily. That must be the grinding sound that I hear whenever I open/close the knife.

Dan
 
That shouldnt be happening Danny. Last I heard EDI was still using Tuf-Glide on their knives. And as we all know tuf glide doesnt do that...... hmmmm....
 
I had one of the first 100 Genesis I knives made. It came with nylatron washers which Will Fennell and Michael Collins replaced with bronze phosphor later. They also "tweaked" the whole thing. I've also been gifted with a Genesis 2 which was good to go from the start.

I have played with later model production and I found some set up fine and others in need. What my fear is now is that with Will and Michael no longer associated with EDI, that QC is suffering. I certainly don't recommend polishing that ball bearing detent. About the only thing that can see a quick swip on a super fine grit paper would be the pivot tube and that ONLY after a lot of wear where you get side play with both sides of the pivot fully tightened down. Now this is based upon counsel I received and the state of the models I've handled. If they are now showing up with machining marks and stuff, that only confirms QC has gone too far south
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. It's a real shame as I think this is a great design. I only hope Jerry pulls things together.

-=[Bob]=-
 
Dannyc: oops. Sorry about the USAcentricity.

I don't know what was used as lubricant on the Genesis I that I recently received, but it was quite hard to open and close. I took the entire thing apart, cleaned out the decidedly non-slippery goop on the bronze washers and used a teflon-based spray lubricant on every surface that moved against another surface.

After putting the knife back together it moves wonderfully. I could tighten down the pivot screw to the point that there is absolutely no lateral play and it still flys out of the handle with a flick of my thumb.

If anyone from EDI is reading this, you guys should really reconsider whatever it is you're using as lubricant.
 
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