Gloves

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Gloves have to be one of the least talked about survival necessities. I guess they are not glamorous enough.

When I am doing my normal thing the Bag of Evil goes everywhere with me. When I fly like I did to go to the Chicago Custom Knife Show or I am going to be dismounted say for a hike, gloves are one of the items that always get transferred to the bag I will be using. Privately and during my professional career I have always been phobic about injuring my eyes and hands. One of the major reasons is that after getting out of the army I worked for a short while doing security for a hospital in Baltimore that served as the regional hand trauma center. I saw just about every hand injury you can think of. Like I have discussed before there are only three ways of injuring the human body, burning, cutting or crushing. The hand, especially your strong hand is the most susceptible to these traumas.

It is not earth shattering news that we use our hands for everything, they are our first line of defense for everything from blocking a punch to falling on our faces. Our hands are used as a probe to survive our would. Is it hot, is it sharp etc.

Any hand trauma no matter how slight can have a massive effect on our survivability and effectiveness. This past weekend at a show, one of my friends pulled a Karambit from it's sheath...right across the first crease of his reaction side pointer finger. The result of the super sharp cut was a puddle of blood in his hand within about 30 seconds. Would this have stopped him during a life or death struggle with an attacker, probably not. But however sad to admit, most situations do not involve fast roping from the space shuttle whacking tango with your custom 1911. I cannot count the times that I have been unfortunate enough to be the first one to respond to show up on the scene of car crashes. These scenes are full of heat and sharp objects. If you try to free someone barehanded only to end up with say a serious laceration or evulsion to a finger on your strong hand, it does not matter how good your first aid kit or skills are, you may not be able to deploy them.

Whenever you know you are going to be exposing yourself to a situation that will likely involve exposure to heat or sharp edges stop for a minute and put on the gloves that should always be within arms reach. During incidents where you have time to respond a little voice inside your head should tell you to put gloves on, work/tactical gloves over rubber gloves are even better. This one small act using an inexpensive pair of gloves coupled with situational awareness can protect your effectiveness like few other things can.

It all comes down to incident survival without caring what the incident is. With mindset, training and tools you can survive anything.
 
Good points you brough up. I have an inexpensive pair of leather work gloves in my pack all the time. Comes in handy when I am getting my coffe cup off the fire, as well as other tasks.
 
Hands are very important! Your point about extricating someone from an MVA hits home-you are (almost) worthless without your hands.
 
I use a pair of basic leather work gloves picked up @ Home Depot for when I'm either rummaging for tinder on the ground to avoid insect bites and splinters and when chopping lots of wood with my axe to limit any blistering.
 
The test we always used at work for tactical sensation was picking coins up off the street, using a cell phone or writing a report. I am a fan of the mechanics style gloves.
 
tony i think maybe you should get some thicker gloves than those golf gloves you had a couple weekends ago...they didn't seem to be able to handle the heat...

i had a nice pair of lightweight work gloves that were just becoming molded to my hand but i can't find them anywhere...i must have set them down somewhere and left them there.

i need to replace them. gloves are very important. i like to work without them alot of time to maintain the toughness of my skin (calluses) but when it gets dirty or rough (doing some stone work or handling nasty logs) i like to break out the gloves.

a couple weeks ago camping i sorely missed my gloves when battoning (vibration/shock), when grabbing a cup off the stove (contact heat), and when using some pliers to grab hot things out of the fire (radiant heat)

from holding onto hot steel while grinding i have built up a fair amount of heat resistance to the point that i can feel warmth when alot of people would start to get 1st degree burns and possibly more...but i don't want to take any risks when in the woods.

excellent points mercop.
 
It was only a little over a week ago, I had a situation that is definitly a reminder that us knife boys should always be protecting our hands. I had a good old fashioned Charlie Foxtrot of a cut on my left index finger. Luckily it wasn't my strong side. Unfortunately, the was significant nerve damage and, although it is possible with years of self-therapy, it is unlikely that I will regain full range of movement or any feeling in that finger. WEAR GLOVES GUYS. Wouldn't be a bad idea to list a few brands of blade handling and cut-resistant gloves in this thread.
 
I'd love to have some relatively cut-resistant, but also fire resistant gloves (meaning they don't melt on you!). And that's something you can hardly find. I've searched the internet for many days and didn't find anything close to what I'm looking for.
Problem is, there's not such thing as a "wonder"-tissue that does it all. And whatever they're trying to sell you, if there is no metal involved, it's not really cut-resistant. So only a real chain glove will do the job, or a fibre-wire-hybrid-tissue (and I'm not even sure about that, but it does exist).
 
tony i think maybe you should get some thicker gloves than those golf gloves you had a couple weekends ago...they didn't seem to be able to handle the heat...

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Hey, they were'nt Golf gloves, they were Walmart leather gardening gloves:D

They handled my hot coffe cup just fine, but I am gonna leave red hot rocks alone from now on:eek:
 
I'd love to have some relatively cut-resistant, but also fire resistant gloves (meaning they don't melt on you!). And that's something you can hardly find. I've searched the internet for many days and didn't find anything close to what I'm looking for.
Problem is, there's not such thing as a "wonder"-tissue that does it all. And whatever they're trying to sell you, if there is no metal involved, it's not really cut-resistant. So only a real chain glove will do the job, or a fibre-wire-hybrid-tissue (and I'm not even sure about that, but it does exist).


The mechanics type gloves were intended to protect mechanics hands from the unforgiving surfaces of engines etc. Perfect no, but like another think layer of skin. As far as melting...just let go;)
 
This is a good thread. Gloves are very important.

Just for the heck of it, when flu season arrives I don't touch anything in public areas unless I'm wearing a pair of gloves.
 
Good points. I carry a pair of Mechanix gloves daily. I also use them on the range and during training classes.
 
Good points mercop, I definitly share your phobia of hand (esp. finger) and eye injuries. They just make me shudder. I wear eye protection religiously when I'm in the shop, and I have a nice pair of leather/nylon mechanic style gloves from Carhart. They have a padded gel insert in the heel of the hand that really helps absorb impact on things like batoning and chopping. The leather is all pigskin, which I love for its puncture resistant qualities. I have, for example, grabbed blackberry vines torn them out of the grown without fear of thorn-related injuries. But I know from experince that while gloves help with abrasion, heat, and crushing, even the toughest glove will have trouble saving you from a shaving-sharp knife. I had three stitches from a cut that went straight through the nylon section of a pair of gloves. I'm willing to be that leather wouldn't have made that much of a difference.
 
Hunting, riding any of the cycles...

Deerskin (not custom--sheez) gloves. Don't dry stiff after wetting. Farm and Fleet or the like.

Every point made is a good one.
 
I carry a thin leather pair of "ropers". Like my hat, they go where I do. Mac

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The test we always used at work for tactical sensation was picking coins up off the street, using a cell phone or writing a report. I am a fan of the mechanics style gloves.

If you want gloves with a good tactile feel look for kangaroo leather. It's tougher than other leathers so they can be made thinner yet still have the same strength. I have a pair of kangaroo motorcycle gloves and the difference between them and cow/deer/elk is very noticeable.
 
So how do these kevlar gloves that I see hold up pricking. I see that many police officers use them to take syringes out of a suspect's clothes. Anyone think they would hold up to a snake bite?
 
Excellent points. I just injured the tip of my left thumb last week. Its amazing how debilitated on everyday chores you get when your hands are injured. Even self-administering first aid is a challenge when you are trying to deal with one of your own fingers. Now picture me in your head trying to peel that stupid two ply end off the band-aides without a thumb and having blood streaming out all the while......

I like some of the new nylon/leather hybrid gloves now available at home depot. They seem a good compromise of lighter nylon on the backside of the hand and heavier reinforced leather on the finger pads and palms. They work great for biking and an all around work glove - I use them in the field and they don't seem to stiffen up so bad after getting wet like traditional all leather work gloves do.
 
I wear..
http://garage.mechanix.com/detail.aspx?ID=1
in "covert".
Picked them up at sears after reading a thread on militaryphotos.net about best gloves.
Guys were recomending those over $100 oakley gloves, and they were right.
Super comfortable and they never will wear out, best gloves I ever had.
Been sporting the same pair for over two years. They smell like foot & ass cologne. Maybe I should wash em.
 
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