Going too far!!!!!

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Uncle Bob

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C'mon guys! Wake UP!

After reading the Mission Knives toughest bla bla bla I couldn't stop shaking my head.

1: WTF do you need something that has that spec for?

Sub zero....Well would YOU still be alive? what would you be CUTTING? Ice?

Anti-Bacteria, gimmie a break dont you ever clean the damn thing anyway?

Anti corosion, see above. If you dont look after your stuff then it will let you down!

Able to sharpen in the field, Whoopeedoo there are loads of hard stones out there and if you didnt bring a small stoone with you, well thats your own stupid fault.

Most well made knife will serve you fine(meaning over $85). After all the right tool for the right job, would you use a scalpel to hack down a tree? No, stupid question right.

sigh.....


Bob
 
The grean and wise almighty Uncle Bob has asked:
1: WTF do you need something that has that spec for?
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Well Bobby, maybe most people dont "need" that...but maybe they want it, and thats all the reason they need.

Your question sounds very similar to what the gun-grabbers go around screaming...."Why do you need such a big gun with lots of bullets for?"

Thanks for being so wise and making everybody see the light :rolleyes:
 
The point is 'tool for the job'

Need to hit something at 1000yds get a big centerfire

Would you buy a rig to go to the store in?

need to open letters, strip cable, open boxes or clean your fingernails get a nice folder.

need to chop wood get a heavy knife or an axe

You are not telling me that those specs weren't ridiculous ? Or more to the point that they were ridiculously used as a marketing tool.

I have nothing against big, especially large cartrige sizes like the .50 in sniper rifles but I wouldn't use one for plinking in the garden with, you dig?


Bob
 
While I would say that the smallest knife that does the job is the biggest knife that you should use, when it comes to quality, a little bit better than you need is what's known as a safety factor.

People don't automatically and immediately die in sub-zero cold. Some people even thrive. Good equipment helps.

Cleaning and maintaining your equipment is always a good idea. On the run, in rough country, you might have to depend on the equipment to hold on until you get to it later.

I don't understand why you think better isn't better.
 
Uncle Bob :

Sub zero....Well would YOU still be alive?
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It is common here for temperatures to drop below -20 during the winter and stay that way for extended periods of time, and no we all don't die. Even in the summer we don't have a lot of days that are really hot. We have snow forcasted for this weekend for example, and just a few weeks ago we had 20 cm of snow fall.

... what would you be CUTTING?
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The same things you always do, we don't hibernate when the temperature drops below zero. If we did, we would never get to go outside.

Anti corosion, see above. If you dont look after your stuff then it will let you down!
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This is the point, you don't have to do any cleaning or preperation with the Mission Ti knives as they are immune to any corrosion or other breakdown attacks. How important this is depends mainly on your enviroment, and the frequency of use of the knife. In really high humid conditions, with infrequent usage, you can lose the edge off a knife with a low corrosion resistance in minutes unless you are constantly oiling it.

-Cliff
 
Going too far, for what?

You seem genuinely offended that someone would want to own a knife that you don't have a use for or don't want..I can never understand why people get upset over what other people buy with their own money, but I see it all the time.

As has been pointed out by a few others in this thread, it's really does not matter why someone would want a particular knife, and in the case of Mission Ti knives, there are several very good reasons to own one as opposed to a steel bladed knife.
If you do not understand these reasons then there is certainly nothing wrong with asking, but your 'questions' were pointless and most were explained in the thread you referenced.

Sure, some of Mission's claims seem a bit outrageous or exaggerated, but once you take the time to understand what they are talking about, most of them are perfectly valid and do have real and measureable benefits.
 
And even if the people who purchase these knives never need such an highly spec'd knife, so what? There are many reasons that people buy knives and buying them because they are really, really tough is not a bad thing. Even if the uses the knife will be put to never come close to the limits of the knife.
 
Telling someone else who you don't know anything about what they need or don't need sounds pretty stupid to me.
Whining about how much other people pay for their knives, with their money is getting pretty common around here with a little group of people. Seems pretty insecure and pathetic to me, but I guess they think they're the "voice of reason", too. Maybe you can join them in trolling on every thread that talks about how much people pay for their knives:p
Wake up yourself.
 
Don't hold back Owen........ tell us how you really feel. :D

What does "WTF" mean anyway??? Way to far ??? :p ;) :eek:

Sounds like the "Uncle Bob song and dance show" is not impressed w/ Mission Knives.......:eek: Wow, Look at what I just wrote...... I think I am starting to feel better. Wanna help me do some moving soon. I got a safe that is heavy.....
Later
 
If you don't want one, then don't buy one. Your needs and my needs are most probably very different.

Where do these people come from?!?!?

Paul
 
for being an inspiration to us all:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I don't wanna own the best, I NEED to own the best. You words of wisdom reminded me of my vacumn cleaner. It sucks too.:p

Oh, and Bob; have a nice weekend
 
I suppose the flak I got is due to me not expressing what I intended adequately.

It wasn't so much the Knife. I have nothing against buying quality. I have over $15,000 worth of Swiss watches. My point was the comments in the thread.

Like 'The anitbacteria thing' and its,(got to be careful here could be a mine field) necessity. WAIT before you type a "I can have anything I want to cos I'm a free man crap.

The IMHO ridiculous 'advantages' of this knife that were being touted by some people just got my back up (Isnt this a discussion forum not a sheeple forum anyways, just cos you dont like my opinion dosent mean I can't express it right? )

The bottom line is that 90%+ of any decent knife, and NO this isnt about cost would do the same things Isnt that Cold Steel something or other supposed to be as tough as hell too?

I guess I was just dissapointed that people would fall for the marketing BS and I am angry with the marketer not the guys here.

Bob
 
Bob,

That's an excellent point, and a valid opinion.

Some "advantages" are really pretty impractical, and at first glance the anti bacteria thing seemed pretty silly.
However, it was more clearly explained a bit later in the thread, and while it's not a major advantage by itself, it does contribute to the list of advantages that Ti has over Steel..It is a valid point.

I do see what your getting at though, and the same kind of thing pisses me off to.

Someone states they want to buy such & such a knife for some totally useless reason, like being able to deploy the blade in a reverse grip super fast and look really cool doing it...How useful is that, in the real world? Sure, I guess it looks cool, but if that's the biggest advantage to owning such a knife, that's pretty pathetic.

On the other hand, the people that have actually owned and used Mission Ti knives are very pleased with them, as opposed to the majority who did not have much good to say about them, based on who knows what...
 
Originally posted by mikemck
Someone states they want to buy such & such a knife for some totally useless reason, like being able to deploy the blade in a reverse grip super fast and look really cool doing it...How useful is that, in the real world?
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I can't resist :D

Never mind how it looks, I'm not really into knives as weapons, anyway, but ... if I am going to deploy them in a fight, then I like that quick reverse grip, so I can box the bad guy, without cutting myself with my own blade, and still have it handy for an uppercut that really cuts.

Nice thing about most standard types of knife, they are flexible, they do a lot of different jobs well. Funny thing about most knife sales, they feel like they have to grab your attention -- so hype! Cold Steel is notorious for ads that are hard to believe, they overstate their case so wildly. :rolleyes: But the knives cut pretty well anyway.
 
I don't see why people think knives won't work well in sub-zero temps... welcome to Saskatchewan. We have 2 seasons. Winter, and Almost Winter(June-August).

I personally have delivered flyers at -53c, no windchill, for 2 hrs. I was dressed warm... my knives didn't freeze up or crack when I pulled them out to cut the straps.

Our average temps(in c):
Oct: -15 to -20
Nov: -20 to -25
Dec: -30 to -40
Jan: -35
Feb: -20
March: -10
April: -10 to +5
May: 15
 
The idea for the Mission Ti knives did not come out of a fantasy, but the need by the Military Spec Ops folks and some other groups for a bullet proof dive knife with NO! magnetic signature. As in Under the freaking water. This knife had to in addition be useful for some basic tasks above water as well. Also prying both under the water and above it was important. About the same time someone had a brainstorm for a Ti Alloy that would work for this and cut too. The mission ti knives were born. If you take diving and underwater explosive mines out of the picture, your probably as well off to buy a strider or Busse. Some of the other attributes that folks mentioned were just plain side effects of using Ti for a knife. No other knife that I know of other than ceramic or plastic etc, has the lack of magnetic signature that Ti does and yet cuts as well and prys as well as the Mission Ti knife. So it is the right tool for the job.
 
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