I walked into the local Gun shop yesterday to see if they had any good deals on anything used. When I looked in the case I found an almost new Ruger P97DC .45 ACP for $260. I have been wanting a .45 to use for the plate matches they have on saturdays at my gun club, so I bought it. There is no manual safty(decock only). The slide is stainless and the frame is black polymer. I havn't shot it yet but I can't wait to get to the range. It came with one extra mag. and it seems to be in realy good shape. when I field striped it, it was clean as a whistle. I think it was the guys carry gun because there was dust in the barrel, holster wear, and some light scratches on the frame although it didn't seem to have been fired much at all. Well once I get to the range I'll see how well she shoots but untill then it's gonna be more dry firing.
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Got a new "toy" yesterday.
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glockman99
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Well...It's not a Glock 
, but those Ruger pistols are very "stout", well-made, and an excellent value.
...But PLEASE don't call a GUN a "toy"!.
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, but those Ruger pistols are very "stout", well-made, and an excellent value. ...But PLEASE don't call a GUN a "toy"!.
.Sorry if I offended you Glockman,I did not mean for it to be taken literaly. That's why I put the Quotation marks around the word toy. I have utmost respect for firearms and do not consider them toys anymore than I consider a knife a toy. I refer to all my new possesions as toys. I would have used the same term if had been a new truck I had bought. Anyway, your right it's not a glock but it's just about as easy to field strip as my 26. Now I just have to wait untill tuesday to see if it shoots as well too.
I got to try it out today, accuracy was good and the recoil wasn't bad at all. I did have a couple problems though. First of all I got smacked with empty brass quite a few times. I also had two jams and one failure to extract where to brass got caught horizontaly in the slide. All of this was with standard round nose reloads. I fired 100 rounds and had all three of these failures
. I also fired 35 rounds of 230 Grain Wincester personal protection JHP. None of the failures happened with the Winchester rounds. I've shot these relodes out of my other guns without problems. I want to test the gun more but I am already thinking about sending it back to Ruger to see if they can fix the problem. I love the feel of this gun and the way it shoots but I want it to be dependable. Bottom Line I won't stake my life on something that jams EVER nevermind three times on the first day in only 135 rounds.
. I also fired 35 rounds of 230 Grain Wincester personal protection JHP. None of the failures happened with the Winchester rounds. I've shot these relodes out of my other guns without problems. I want to test the gun more but I am already thinking about sending it back to Ruger to see if they can fix the problem. I love the feel of this gun and the way it shoots but I want it to be dependable. Bottom Line I won't stake my life on something that jams EVER nevermind three times on the first day in only 135 rounds.Revolvergeek
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I would never judge a gun on its performance with bought reloads. Rugers are stout guns with stout springs that are rated a-ok for use with +p ammo, so if those reloads are just a little bit light they may not cycle well. All automatics will jam, regardless of new or old, cheap or expensive, if they don't LIKE the ammo you feed them.
My Glocks and HiPowers HATE cheap lead reloads, so I feed them factory ball and they are 100 percent happy and reliable. If you shop around you can buy good factory 9mmP for $5 per 50, and 45 acp goes for roughly $8.50 for 50.
I would go buy a couple of boxes of Winchester, Federal or Speer-Lawman 230 FMJs and try that in it before it even discussing sending it back to Ruger.
My Glocks and HiPowers HATE cheap lead reloads, so I feed them factory ball and they are 100 percent happy and reliable. If you shop around you can buy good factory 9mmP for $5 per 50, and 45 acp goes for roughly $8.50 for 50.
I would go buy a couple of boxes of Winchester, Federal or Speer-Lawman 230 FMJs and try that in it before it even discussing sending it back to Ruger.
What he said.
You're not risking your life on a gun that jams 3 times in 100 rounds because, frankly, reloads just don't count.
If you had those 3 failures with factory ammo, and specifically with the exact HP ammo you plan on carrying, then I'd be concerned.
If you doubt the reliability of your new gun (and you clearly do), shoot your entire next practice session with your carry ammo. It will be expensive compared to cheap reloads, but it will answer your question and ease your concerns about whether your gun is reliable. That's a bargain at any price.
You're not risking your life on a gun that jams 3 times in 100 rounds because, frankly, reloads just don't count.
If you had those 3 failures with factory ammo, and specifically with the exact HP ammo you plan on carrying, then I'd be concerned.
If you doubt the reliability of your new gun (and you clearly do), shoot your entire next practice session with your carry ammo. It will be expensive compared to cheap reloads, but it will answer your question and ease your concerns about whether your gun is reliable. That's a bargain at any price.
I was just dissapointed and needed to vent. I do plan on doing alot more testing with all types of ammo. Hopefully it will work out all right. I still like the gun alot It is very accurate and the recoil is very mild. I also took it apart and found that there was alot of thick grease all over the inside, so I cleaned it all out and relubed with miltec. maybe this will take care of the problem.
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I understand what you mean will22. Nothing is more frustrating than a new gun jamming. That may very well have been a lot of your problem. Too much lube, esp. thick greasy stuff, can be really hurt functioning. I had a Keltec P32 that broke its mainspring while sitting in a holster in my pocket and it annoyed me so much that after almost 3 months I have still not bothered to send it back for repair. Guns need to work, but you have to be fair to them with what you feed them.
The Ruger .45s are very solid, reliable guns. I know several people with literally tens of thousands of rounds through kp90s with no problems whatsoever. I think you will be pleased with it, and it is a hell of a lot of gun for $260!
The Ruger .45s are very solid, reliable guns. I know several people with literally tens of thousands of rounds through kp90s with no problems whatsoever. I think you will be pleased with it, and it is a hell of a lot of gun for $260!
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First... check the Magazines... Bent lips on the magazine is the most common cause of misfeeds. If they still misfeed, buy a new magazine and try that.
Two, polish feed ramp... Start with 800 grit sandpaper and work your way up to 1200 grit... rub in the in/out direction... Then follow up with a dremel tool and felt wheel with polishing compound till you have a mirror finish. Rounds should pop right in.
If the jam is caused by a failure to extract or to fully extract or eject, then check your extractor.
A new pistol may need a few hundred rounds to break in. During the breakin time, the springs will weaken ever so slightly, the slide rails will grind and smooth itself out. Also, make sure the contact points (rails, the parts of the barrel that rubs against the inside of the slide, as well as the guide rod for the spring) are adequately lubed.
I would not worry about a gun that jams while new... I would worry if it still jams after a few hundred rounds.
One last thing... you're not "limp wristing" are you?
Two, polish feed ramp... Start with 800 grit sandpaper and work your way up to 1200 grit... rub in the in/out direction... Then follow up with a dremel tool and felt wheel with polishing compound till you have a mirror finish. Rounds should pop right in.
If the jam is caused by a failure to extract or to fully extract or eject, then check your extractor.
A new pistol may need a few hundred rounds to break in. During the breakin time, the springs will weaken ever so slightly, the slide rails will grind and smooth itself out. Also, make sure the contact points (rails, the parts of the barrel that rubs against the inside of the slide, as well as the guide rod for the spring) are adequately lubed.
I would not worry about a gun that jams while new... I would worry if it still jams after a few hundred rounds.
One last thing... you're not "limp wristing" are you?
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will22,
AFTER you run a hundred or so "break-in" rounds through your Ruger .45, buy yourself a couple of boxes of Federal Hydra-Shoks. Shoot a whole box (of 20) through your Ruger, and you should notice that your new Ruger will not jam with those excellent factory loads. IF it DOES jam with the Federals, take it back to where you purchased it, and trade up to a Glock!.
AFTER you run a hundred or so "break-in" rounds through your Ruger .45, buy yourself a couple of boxes of Federal Hydra-Shoks. Shoot a whole box (of 20) through your Ruger, and you should notice that your new Ruger will not jam with those excellent factory loads. IF it DOES jam with the Federals, take it back to where you purchased it, and trade up to a Glock!.