Grow your own pain killer?

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Hi there guys.

Just curious if anyone knows of any use for opium poppy that isn't mind altering.

Anyone grow their own pharmaceuticals?

I know that the opium poppy is somewhat illegal, but in a world ends kind of scenario what could you use it for?
Is there another type of plant that has similar uses but is NOT as addictive?

Anything else that you grow that isn't well known for its medical properties but is indeed quite handy?

Cheers
 
Opium (including raw opium, extracts, poppy, straw, etc) is a Schedule II narcotic and is not just "somewhat illegal" but very illegal.
 
I don't plan on growing it, but what kind of plants have this kind of effects without the drawbacks or legal ramifications
 
How do you use it mate? Is it topical (as in rub it on an injury) or do you have to boil it down like a tea or something else?

This to me is a very pertinent thread, as I would like to find legal ways of avoiding store bought medications and general reliance on civilisation (working towards the dream of self reliance)
 
You could boil it into a tea, but I just cut off a handfull of twigs, strip the leaves off and chew the twigs for a while and swallow the saliva then spit out the twigs. It tastes like an aspirin.
 
You could boil it into a tea, but I just cut off a handfull of twigs, strip the leaves off and chew the twigs for a while and swallow the saliva then spit out the twigs. It tastes like an aspirin.

I've done the same, except with a single twig at a time. I've also steeped it (tender, younger, less woody bark) in a tea as with sassafrass root bark. Like asprin, willow bark is slightly bitter, but not unpleasantly so. IIRC, asprin was originally synthisized from willow bark.
 
guava leaves , brewed into a tea , are a fairly powerful painkiller .

Bush onion , boiled up , and the juice of it left over , anyone in the NT with a hint of black fellow in them has a bottle of that in the fridge , its a anti inflammatory / pain reliever , but for external use only , splash it on your sunburn / wound / sprain / break ...

maroon bush , in west aus , brewed into a drink .. this is serious medicine tho , not to be messed with .. it is a serious pain reliever .. but only when you got serious pain , it also has some really good medicaly proven anti cancer properties . cancer was a problem for the Aboriginals , this was one of their remedies .
If you drink the stuff for curiosity value , youll get a headache ..

billygoat plum in the NT is a seriously powerful supplement for diet .. it tastes good , but it is so chock full of vitamins if you eat more than one or two , youll get the poops . I believe it is now being commercially farmed for its having something like 10x the vitC of an orange .

The leaves of the black wattle , the new tips heated up and used as a poultice .. bind over your bruise / break act as a pain reliever and anti inflamitary .. if you live in West Aus , think Jamwood ( the stuff that dont smell like jam when its cut tho ) the seeds of it are actually edible , both green and dry .. before and after the black ants have farmed the red strip off them too . Mostly they are just soaked and or steamed

Im sorry I do not know the correct botanical names for these plants , I only know them by sight .

There is a plant called native strawberry ... the fruit have a fairly powerful hallucinogen . There are folk who grow it to trip out with out legal issues

The old stand by pot plant .. marijuana is actually a seriously good pain killer , the only time I tried pot was when I happened to have taken a fall off a motor bike , took a lot of skin off my face shoulder hip and leg , some serious bruising goin on there too , it reduced the pain a lot .. everyone else was mellow .. I was a bit left out tho like being the only sober person among drunks . I think if you over dose for the pain you have, you get high .. if you have no pain , you just get high , I havent experimented enough to say for sure .. I spent enough time in lock ups from just alcohol I wasnt interested in spending more for actual illegal stuff . I mention it tho because it is a kind f common thing for some to have .. and not everyone who has it realizes its actually a medicine .
 
Great post, Myal. Lots of info. This is an interesting topic that I hadn't considered before. It WOULD be nice not have to depend on laboratory made pharmaceuticals, especially in the event of a situation in which there are many people vying for a fixed amount of pain management, like in a natural disaster, nuke attack or zombie revolution! :D
 
That is some excellent info there thanks Myal, exactly the stuff I was looking for. Cheers mate
 
If you Google aboriginal pharmacopoeia you will find some useful stuff. An early paper by Ella Stack is available for download and you will find references to an excellent book published around 1988 that not only details aboriginal knowledge of bush medicines in the Northern Territory but it has great photos as well. Use of these natural options was still very much apart of aboriginal life in the NT at that time. Publication of the book was sponsored by the Northern Territory Health Dept and many libararies will have copies. I got my copy when it was first published. Not sure how useful it would be outside of the NT but is an excellent resource if you are interested in that type of thing - safer than growing poppies.
 
the only thing about growing your own is getting the proper dosage correctly for your pain without killing yourself experimenting. that and the dea will get ya if you do grow for drug use.
 
Thanks :)

I only really know this stuff because my dad had a pretty aggressive cancer and the only doctor we had access to hated dads guts that much he refused to prescribe pain killers .

Dad had a pretty fantastic garden tho with a few guavas in there , we dried the leaves and stored them , and used them fresh , if you brew that stuff strong enough , it is comparable to morphine , without the other effects of morphine

Interesting thing we found tho , is that Dad lasted 11 years , 10 1/2 were really good years too , where if he had have gotten hands on the usual pain relief at the time , oral morphine , that stuff kills the stomach lining and makes the patient unable to absorb anything like food pretty much , and death follows shortly after . Takes around 3 months after the patient starts taking it ... or so the doctor told us when he was talking to us while doing the death certificate .

There is other stuff like cardoon he grew for liver cleaning .. cancer leaves a lot of crud in the system , and the liver is one of the main filters , keep the filter clean and healthy and the system can function longer .. eat the leaves as greens is all it takes . But that is more of a systems maintenance thing than a short term fix .

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One thing that is seriously easy to get and not mistake is go to the supermarket and get ginger root , use it to make a tea , just slice up a handfull of the stuff , and put in hot water , let it cool put in the fridge .
Its another anti inflamitory .. it works for stuff as arthritis , sore muscles , aches etc ... just drink it , you cant overdose really , youll just pee more ... ginger is the same stuff you eat in ginger bread , or in cakes ..
regular ginger as in crystalised ( cooked in sugar solution ) we give to kids to eat when they are feeling carsick .. regular ginger root dried and ground is often the main ingredient in anti car sick pills anyway .
Wild ginger , the kind we got growing in QLD works , well I have tried it , it works as good as regular stuff .
 
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ginger is definitely good for the stomach.
While running very long races,12hrs-30hrs,I have taken dried (crystallized)
ginger to settle any stomach issues.works like a charm all the time.
I never knew about the other uses for it, "arthritis , sore muscles , aches"
so I will for sure make some of that iced tea tomorrow.
THANKS!
 
Finding and identifying mushrooms is tough, growing your own is tougher. Mycology is a touchy subject.

Now tincture of hemlock, on the other hand...(just kidding, it's poison.)
 
When my Father was a kid his mother kept a jar of Pot in the pantry that they would boil into tea for pain.It was legal back then.
 
one of the best painkillers for toothaches ive used was dried cloves, 2 cloves gets rid of all but the worst toothaches for me, i keep a small bag of them in my FAK
 
one of the best painkillers for toothaches ive used was dried cloves, 2 cloves gets rid of all but the worst toothaches for me, i keep a small bag of them in my FAK
Yep cloves work,lol but Scotch or Whisky works good too.
 
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