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Has the Al Mar Ultralight line been discontinued?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by jlomein, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. jlomein


    Apr 27, 2009
    I'm looking for an AL Mar Ultralight Falcon and noticed it's out of stock everywhere I've seen. Anyone know where to get one?
  2. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    They must be discontinued,. I saw some on the website of a non BF dealer, but I can't post that here and I can't message you.
  3. TheEdge01


    Apr 3, 2015
    Don’t get me wrong, Al Mar makes great knives. When considering their prices, materials used, and most of their designs seem very basic, I don’t know how they stay in business.
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  4. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    That could be said about a lot brands. The heart wants what the heart wants. I have a few Al Mar knives that I was fortunately to buy second hand at a considerable discount from the retail price. They are among among my favorite knives.
  5. jlomein


    Apr 27, 2009
    Comments like these come up on many Al Mar threads, and they're certainly valid points. That said, there's little competition for slender, lightweight gentleman's folders with impeccable fit and finish that include a pocket clip. Very few have such a basic yet classy look to them.
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  6. Professor

    Professor Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    I get that these are valid points when considering materials, but how about the fit and finish? Not playing devil's advocate here at all, just asking. In the few years that I've been admiring sharp objects, inclusive of when Al Mar was alive, his designs have always seemed ergonomic, well executed, and elegant from a fit and finish and ergonomic standpoint. Moreso than some more recent manufacturers. Have things changed of late?
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  7. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Fit & finish. Pretty good. Comparable to Moki, I would guess they are made by the same shop.

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  8. TheEdge01


    Apr 3, 2015
    I used to own the Nomad, and it was one of my all time favorite knives. I’m also a fan of VG10 as well. I certainly wasn’t knocking Al Mar, I love the brand and would hate to see them go under. I just see what other brands have to offer in their line up and wonder. Your observation is probably the answer to my question.
  9. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    I believe they are a Moki-made product. I think they were out of production for awhile, but I've seen more recently.
  10. Planterz

    Planterz Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    Moki makes the ones you see now. I can't speak for the older knives, except that Benchmade made autos for them for a time (since it's illegal to import switchblades, they had to use an American manufacturer).

    I've been reading scuttlebutt recently about the company currently going through legal and/or ownership issues, or something like that. I don't know if the specifics are publicly known. We can probably assume that's why their knives are out of stock from dealers. It could be that they're not currently having anything produced. Hopefully whatever it is gets resolved soon.
  11. Ourorboros


    Jan 23, 2017
    Ergonomic and elegant designs usually do seem basic. Turns out odd angles and embellishments don't help with basic function at all.
    For heavier work I'd like a fuller grip, but that's not what the designs are about at all.

    That elegant simplicity, that curve from the start of the clip to the butt of the handle can be found from G Sakai's Aida to Le Thiers knives to the Fox Elite Folder. It just works.

    IIRC, the early Al Mars were made by G Sakai. It makes sense, the "G" in G Sakai stood for Gerber. Back when Gerber made quality knives G Sakai made many of them and Al Mar worked for Gerber before going out on his own. Then he switched to Moki.
    I don't think new Al Mars have been made for a while though.
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  12. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    I feel like a Jackass for not getting one of these. Like an idiot I assumed Al Mar was always going to be around. The prices always seemed a little high to me for what you get.

    I only now realize I need one.
  13. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
  14. Art_Vandeley


    Jul 22, 2009
    On of my main edc knives is a Al Mar Ultralight Hawk. I love that knife to bits. its so well made and it functions perfect as a EDC. I gotta get the Eagle before they dissapear for good. Al Mar has made a LOT of knives, fixed and folding. Some really awesome stuff like the Green Beret or the Packrat.
  15. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Nemesis Knives has an agreement with Al Mar’s estate to produce some Al Mar designs in modern materials. They’re called the MPR (Mar Private Reserve). So far they’ve released two models with a third scheduled by end of year.
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  16. MSchott


    Feb 9, 2017
  17. jlomein


    Apr 27, 2009
    I believe I've now found the reason these knives are disappearing. Apparently the wife of the late Mr. Mar is in a court battle with the primary shareholder of Al Mar Knives. I'm guessing this means new production of these out of stock knives is unlikely. Sad to hear but seems like the company Al Mar Knives has some management problems.

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  18. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    I’ve been meaning to get one of these Nemesis versions. They look way less public friendly though.

    I believe Al Mar’s website still has some Ultralites in stock but the price is high. I do wish that they were built with screwed construction though.

    Edit: Seems like my local store has a Nemesis mpr1 in stock. I think I know what my next knife will be.
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2018
  19. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I just can’t justify paying, for example, $435 for a SERE 2000, much as I would love to own that historic piece. That is the price in the UK. I’d buy a CRK first. Sad to hear that they have these misfortunes, as the knives are beautiful.
  20. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Since the ultralight series is built with a pinned construction, even the pivot; is it possible to tighten a loose pivot by hitting the side of the pivot with a rubber mallet?

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