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Buzzbait

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Hi all,

I just wanted you all to know that I haven’t fallen off the face of the earth. I’ve just been terribly busy lately. The new house has got me up and working all night and all weekend long. This is also my busy work season, and work is busier than other years. Believe it or not, I haven’t even had time to go fishing yet, much less chat on the forums. I just can’t seem to catch a break. At least I’m expanding my horizons now, and learning the tradition of sharpening lawn mower blades. ;)

It’s been an interesting few months, as far as knife use goes. With all of the repair and fixing I’ve been doing, my knives have really been put to the test. With my precious little free time, my knife priorities have become a little more realistic. Lack of time to constantly sharpen and strop my blades has led me to favor knives that don’t necessarily have a scalpel-like polished edge. I’m mostly carrying knives that will go for a week without sharpening, yet still get the job done. A chip to two has become something that I’ve come to live with. Fortunately, I have enough knives that I’ve been using one up, and then throwing it in the “To Be Sharpened When I Have Time” box.

Of all the knives that have gone through this ritual, the 440V Spyderco Military and Dozier Straight Hunter have worked out the best. While my other knives ran out of gas early on, the Spydie 440V and Dozier D2 have really proven themselves to be powerhouses for real world use. You get an entirely different perspective on steel properties, edge geometry, and ergonomics when you’re forced into a knife abusive situation, with no end in sight. Both blades have taken their blows, yet still managed to get the work done. I’m talking about chores like cutting up cardboard boxes for an hour straight, hacking down raspberry bush tendrils that piss you off while trying to mow around them, and opening untold numbers of plastic blister packs. You get up in the morning to a job of cutting carpet or insulation, and then moving on to scraping gaskets and cutting new pieces of vinyl siding. If you’re lucky, you don’t have to do any impromptu wire stripping. Cutting open bags of topsoil, powdered limestone and concrete has become a daily ritual, and is a real knife slayer. The most you do to maintain your knife is to wash it off under the garden hose and to try not to hit any staples that day.

Lots of other knives would have been fine if constantly maintained, but couldn’t hold up to an 18-hour work environment. This experience has given me even more appreciation for the talents of Bob Dozier and Sal Glesser than I had previously, which is hard to believe. These men are knife making miracle workers. The differences in durability and ease of use of these two knives, in comparison to a bucket of production knives, are not small. I had knives with scales falling off, tips that snapped off, edges that rolled over like a dog, and other knives that developed blade play like a rag doll. Some knives were comfortable for an hour, but then began to blister my hands. Other knives cut fine when perfectly sharp, but took a terrible turn when the blade became even slightly dull. The devastation was terrible, and just two knives came through the ordeal without a single problem. If I ever hear anybody say that a Military or a Dozier K-4 is a bad design, I’ll know in my heart that they’re a lying sack of lawn fertilizer. These are real knives for real men with real work to be done. They are miracles of design and execution. To tell you the truth, I’m now in a position of not knowing what knife I’d buy, if I were to purchase a new one. The Military and Dozier continue to get the job done when others will not, and I’m incredibly thankful for it.

One other thing. My trusty SAK Cybertool34 has also traveled with me for the entire ordeal. The small blade was my scalpel when I needed ultimate sharpness, and the tools were incredibly handy. This knife is the ticket for convenience, so you don’t have to go to the garage and collect tools for the small jobs.

Okay. One more thing. With all of the hell I put twenty folders through, I did not have a single lock failure. I guess it just goes to show how strong most locks really are. If you know how to use a knife properly, the lock is really the least of your worries. If you’re an experienced knife user, worry about real issues like blade geometry, steel quality and ergonomics. Keep the lock clean and it’ll do its job.

I’ll be tuning in here and there, but time is still precious. I’ve still got just a few things to finish up on the house, and then I’ll have a little more breathing room. I’ve also got some vacation time coming up in July, where I’m finally gonna’ get a week to wet a line. The fish are calling me I big way!!!
 
Thank God you are safe and sound. Now we can call off the helicopters and recall all the rescue teams.

Seriously though, it's good to know that you have had a productive time away from all of us. Thanks for the detailed and informative report.

Cheers.
 
Dude nice to see your wired again:D , heard about the move, figured you'd pop back up sooner or later. Where abouts did you land upstate?
 
I'm not too far from where I was. I'm in Valatie, 20 minutes outside of Albany.
 
even though it is probably only for a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the mini review of your knife usage... any chance of which ones didn't cut the mustard? How did your convex ground Dozier fare?
I hope you have some good fishing on your vacation, as I haven't been able to get fishing yet... I'll have to live vicariously through others, so let's hear about it after vacation, ok?
Mongo
 
Buzzbait-- good to hear from you. I was thinking that you had been eaten by a giant fish or something. To be honest, the idea of you working on your house just isn't quite as exciting:)
--Josh
 
I'm glad to see you back here on BFC. I've always enjoyed your opinions and insights. I look forward to more in the future.
 
Greetings,
That was a pretty interesting read, and a change from the typical review which is nice. I'm sure i'm not the only one who's dying to know which knives did'nt make the cut. Sounds as if theres a good number. I'd appreciate learning from your experience.

If you get the time, and would'nt mind, a list of the 'others' and maybe even a word or two about the problems, would be invaluable. Especially for me, as i'm rather new to any knives above the $50 price point. Please enlighten those of us who don't know.

Good luck with the house, and gettin' to fishin' ;)
 
Hiya Buzz, good to see you back on BF. Whenever you get time, I'd be curious to see a more in - depth review of the various knives you used and an evaluation of their performance.
 
Hey, Buzz, glad to see you back. I haven't heard anything about convex grinds in quite some time--it's almost unnatural :p . Looks like you're giving your collection a real workout, glad to hear that you have a couple that can keep up with your workload.
 
Glad to hear you are doing well and glad to see ya back here!
Gus
 
The convex ground Dozier fared quite well, but not as well as the hollow ground Dozier. The hollow ground K-4 just has a much thinner edge. If I were doing a large mix of home and hiking/outdoor style stuff, I’d probably opt for the convex grind. But for purely household stuff, the hollow grind seems to get the job done more easily and reliably. Bob’s hollow grinds are incredible.

The Sebenza did quite well, but BG-42 didn’t hold up nearly as well as Dozier D2 or Spyderco 440V. The BG-42 had a tendency to roll over a little too easily for my tastes. I really should get that knife upgraded to S30V. Similar rollovers happened to my Buck BG-42, but not to the extent of the Sebenza. The Camillus 154CM EDC did okay, but the steel just wasn’t wear resistant enough for some of the heavy work. The M2 on my 710 was good, but nothing like 440V for holding an edge. Talonite chipped too easily for the really hard work. Tips got snapped on both an Old Timer and a Delica. I was stupid with the Delica though, and somebody else killed the Old Timer. My Kershaw Double Cross will need some work, as it started to develop some play after a bit of hard use. I had a scale fall off of a Boker slipjoint. My wife’s CRKT KFF is just about utterly destroyed. Too many problems to list on that one.

I’m not busting on any of these knives. Most of them worked well. They just either weren’t appropriate for the hard abuse they were getting, or they were outmatched by the more expensive Military and Dozier. The Dozier was favored for pure cutting efficiency. The Military was chosen for its pure indestructibility. Okay; I am busting on the KFF. Maybe I just got an extraordinarily bad one.

I expected the Dozier to do well. It’s a Dozier after all. You expect a lot from a legend. There is no hype when it comes to Dozier knives. They are that good. The K-4 is the benchmark from which I judge all other knives. The design and craftsmanship are absolutely flawless as far as I’m concerned. If this knife had the ability to fold, and had a Micarta or G10 handle, I never would have used anything else.

The Military was surprising. I knew it was a good knife, but I was worried about the 440V. Many people say that Spyderco 440V is too soft or too brittle. With a toothy convex edge, the 440V held up very well. I had no rollovers and fewer chips than expected. And boy did it hold an edge!!! The linerless G-10 scales made the knife impossible to destroy. It was tossed to other people and skidded along concrete. It was stepped on and left in the rain by accident. People say that the tip is too thin, but it never snapped on me. There’s hardly a scratch on the Military after all I put it through. It’s one tough mother of a knife. It’s ugly, but indestructible.
 
Buzz, Glad you are alive and well...I was starting to think something bad might have happened. Good to see you around again...
 
Glad to see you back Buzz. I would love to hear how the 710 compared to the Military now that you had the chance to work them hard. How did the ergonomics of the 710 compare to the Military? I read where you wrote that the 440v outperformed the M2 Benchmade uses, but how did the knives compare on other points?
 
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