Hi & Small Dagger Question

[R. Lemmen]

Hi Everyone,

I have been looking for a small (3-3.5" blade) double edged dagger for MA practice. Our knife drills are based loosely on Fairbairn/Sykes (with a lot of okinawan influence). I prefer a non-serrated blade with a black coating. Slim form factor in the sheath would also be appreciated. I've been doing the drills with rubber practice knives but it's high time I did some "live fire" exercises.

I have looked at the Gerber Guardian, but the plastic sheath and lock mechanism turn me off. The sheath is pretty wide and thick. Adjusting the locking force just seems like a gimmicky PITA. Something similar with a slim multi-position kydex sheath perhaps?

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A quick introduction: I am an engineer specializing in tool design and have been taking okinawan martial arts for about 16 years. I have a couple of small EDC knives and a few swords but I am not a serious collector by any means. Been lurking here for a while now and I finally thought it was time to pop my head up and ask a question.

Cheers,

Rob

 

[JackBoots]

http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-CustomListProducts?Double Edged Daggers,2,158,=,dagger

Here is a nice listing, be sure to click the button at the bottom of the webpage to see more of them!

Here is a funny one I like the name and sheath!

http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-ProductSpec?UC841


http://www.knifezone.ca/camillus/Camillus_boot.htm

 

[Quiet Storm]

Originally posted by R. Lemmen
I have looked at the Gerber Guardian, but the plastic sheath and lock mechanism turn me off. The sheath is pretty wide and thick. Adjusting the locking force just seems like a gimmicky PITA. Something similar with a slim multi-position kydex sheath perhaps?

Yep, the Guardian's sheath is pretty crappy, but modifying the tightness of the sheath isn't too complicated.

Take a look at the Fällkniven G1 Garm Fighter instead. Excellent fit and finish and VG-10 is a great steel. It is offered with a neck carry only Kydex sheath though, but you might want to consider an after market sheath made to your specifications.

If you want something cheaper, the Cold Steel Para Edge Double Edge comes to mind.

 

[glockman99]

How about a SOG Mini Pentagon? (One side of the blade IS serrated, 'tho, but it's still a pretty nice little knife.).

 

[Zytif]

The Cold Steel Peace Keeper I and II have a double edge.

 

[J. MacDonald]

An old Al Mar Fang if you can find one (besides mine). It's everything you asked for. Sorry, no pic yet.

On a more readily available note, what about one of the Nealy designs with the M.A.S.S. carry system? These seem to fit the bill:

http://www.budnealyknifemaker.com/MASS.html

jmx

 

[Allen E. Treat]

A friend of mine makes custom knives
and doesn't charge an arm & a leg for the damn things ; Just let him know I refered you, and he'll do a "yeoman" job ( he made me a small push dagger w/ pocket sheath & buriere(?) wood grips & ATS-34 steel) Give'em an e-mail & he'll make you what you're looking for :

voxnaes11@hotmail.com

Be specific as to what you require ;
don't know if he can "blacken" the blade for you, but, then again, I never asked him. Name's Jesper Voxnaes.

AET

 

[R. Lemmen]

Thanks to all who replied.

Right now I think that the Fallkniven G1 is the front runner in my search. It seems to have all I am asking for at a decent price-point (knifecenter.com is actually cheaper than the local Canadian distributor).

I might consider getting a custom some time in the future. Right now I'd like something decent that I can beat up a little without feeling too bad.

Cheers,

Rob

Currently Carrying:
Kershaw Chive
Victorinox Classic
Leatherman Wave

 

[Greg Walker]

Gryphon M-10 boot knife. It's not double edged but you can sharpen the false edge, if you wish.

Beautiful knife, wonderfully made, excellent sheath system, great for manipulating due to ergonomic design and textured Zytel handle.

Bob Terzuola design - offered by Cutlery Shoppe.

GW
KU

 

[Boink]

I' ve given that Fallkniven dagger a hard look. Looks real nice, so far.

 

[R. Lemmen]

Originally posted by Greg Walker
Gryphon M-10 boot knife. It's not double edged but you can sharpen the false edge, if you wish.

Beautiful knife, wonderfully made, excellent sheath system, great for manipulating due to ergonomic design and textured Zytel handle.

Bob Terzuola design - offered by Cutlery Shoppe.

GW
KU

Sorry, I still think that the Fallkniven is the winner.

As well as having to sharpen the false edge to get a true double edge, the Gryphon M10 is more expensive, doesn't have the neck cord for the sheath and I haven't yet found one with a black coated blade.

I am strictly thinking of utility and cost for this one.

The Fallkniven neck sheath will allow me to wear it around the neck, IWB and slung under the arm. The optional teklock will also give me belt carry options.

Still, thanks for the input!

Cheers,

Rob.