hinderer TI pen "kuboton"

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i gots me one of them rick hinderer titanium, "kuboton" pens, and i figured i'd share some photos and thoughts.

first off, i think it's great! very much on the pricey side for what i'm normally pay for a pen, but life is short and titanium is forever.


the pen is very heavy. it is certainly a purpose-driven pen-- IMO made more to be a kuboton than a pen. since i'm not too savvy on "tactical" kuboton use, i'm sort of at a loss. I got this pen because it's custom, titanium, grippy, tough, and has a screw on cap (i love that feature).

that said, it's relatively heavy for a pen-- not necessarily good for a pen but good for an impact device. the entire body features grippy notches around the body, with a knurled-like center.

the pen is the "short" stack model, he offers one body that is about one inch longer IIRC. it is modular, of course, i only have the standard clip and threaded end attachment. as i said earlier, i'm not all about kubotons, so i'll unlikely be purchasing any specialty tips, which he offers on his site or can be ordered at plazacutlery or bluelinegear.

the threads on the modular device are long and look to be extremely durable. not one or three lines of threads to attach modular components-- more like 7-8. it is extremely well made and doesn't look like they will strip or wear over time.

i am terrified i will lose the threaded pen cap. the threaded end gives me the option to "store" the cap when in writing use, although i generally just opt to stick it in my pocket.

the clip is extremely nice, and very long compared to normal pen clips. it clips the pen to your pocket more like a knife than a pen, with generous clearance and a little more "drag" than normal pen clips. i hope this feature will help retain the pen in my pocket, as i'm quite paranoid of losing the pen. of course, the clip may be removed (as part of the modular design) and bent in/out to the user's desire.

like i said, i'm not planning on using this pen for defensive purpose or anything, although i imagine it could serve well for breaking auto glass or something similar. i have no idea-- i've never broken auto glass before. again, it's got quite heft, so i suppose if i've got an attacker and standoff distance i could just huck it at the guy.

the pen attachment uses the "small" space-pen refill. this is the refill that you all are likely not accustomed to, those of you who use space pens, miltac pens, or the rite-in-the-rain pens. it's skinnier, costs about 2 bucks, and likely holds significantly less ink than the normal pen cartridges. once again, this pen was probably designed to be more of an impact device and less of a writing utensil. the refills don't bother me, at 2 bucks, i will always have a few refill handy for when i run dry. i wish it used the larger sized spacepen cartridges, but i can't win 'em all. as far as i can tell, the cartridges are just press-fit into the pen attachment. just take some pliers and pull the cartridge out. push a new one in.


overall fit and finish on this pen is outstanding. just what i'd expect for rick hinderer's shop. i own an xm-18 gen 3 and these two products are on par with excellence.



here's the best part. i'm not as much a fan of the flamey stripe finish on the ti, which is also common on strider sng/smf framelocks (i own 4). i emailed rick directly, asking him cost and time about getting this pen a beadblast finish.

he emails me, just a few days later, offering to send me a new, beadblast pen to iraq, and i can just send my striped one back to him when i return to the US. i don't anticipate re-deploying back to the united states for another 2 months. what an offer! and such trust. this was extremely generous on rick's part, and he's owed some recognition. i'm not going to take him up on the offer, as the finish doesn't bother me so much, but it means a lot to me to know he's looking out for us deployed guys.



what else can i say? thank you, rick, for an outstanding product and your support and customer service. thank you, gruntinhusaybah, for an outstanding transaction on the buy/sell forums. thanks for reading.

here's some pictures.

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bonus pic

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sry about the graininess, i don't have any of my real photography equipment here in iraq.
 
cool, thx for the review.

do you like the fisher space cartridges? i used to carry one for work and found they didn't write very smoothly, always leaving globs of ink behind.

are there any other cartridges it will accept?

ive always admired them, and don't mind the price so long as i would use it. but not sure if i would carry a pen that is that heavy.
 
It probably wouldn't take much alteration to accept a rollerball refill. When first starting out with pens, I bought every type I could find to see what writes best. I didn't care for the space pen because of the thick globs of ink it leaves. Rollerballs are much better writers.
 
i like the parker gel cartridges.

how large, or small, are the cartridge spaces in the pen/kubotans?
 
it uses this one:

http://www.spacepen.com/blueinkfinepointfisherpressurizeduniversalrefill-1-1.aspx

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i really like the fisher ink cartridges. i've heard recently (?) they upgraded the ink they used to use for something less globby. apparently, the globbing ink was a common complaint among users.


i really like fisher space pen cartridges. i find them extremely useful-- a lot of times i write on horizontal surfaces or above me. i think the ink writes well, permanently, and smooth enough. i've been using fisher pen refills pretty much exclusively for the last 2 years.

i've never been a fan of rollerball, gel ink, or fountain-type pens. i actually like a little bit of "drag" resistance when i'm writing. maybe it's just what i've gotten used to.
 
thx for the info.

i just saw that he also makes an aluminum version for $80. ill have to keep on the lookout for that one to try out.
 
thx for the info.

i just saw that he also makes an aluminum version for $80. ill have to keep on the lookout for that one to try out.

Yes, Hinderer has an aluminum one & I've used mine quite a bit for work. I believe they're lighter than the Ti ones, MUCH less expensive, & still very tough. Also, fisher does seem to have "fixed" their ink globbing problem, because I have not noticed that problem with this pen. I do recall having the problem with an older Fisher pen & it's what turned me off of using it for work.
 
It probably wouldn't take much alteration to accept a rollerball refill. When first starting out with pens, I bought every type I could find to see what writes best. I didn't care for the space pen because of the thick globs of ink it leaves. Rollerballs are much better writers.

That certainly was a problem for Fisher in the past. they have fixed this, and the current refills are much better. Smoother and "neater" than previously. Try them again, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
Once I have a pretty good strider/sabenza folder collection going, I might drop what that costs....

Very nice pen though, I'd be afriad to lose it. Looks bullet proof, how's the ink smell? My rite in the rain smelled like ass.
 
i'm terrified of losing it.

but the pen clip is really long, and very strong. it hooks to my pant pocket quite well. i will eventually devise a way to securely carry this pen around-- i'm thinking... maybe a black leather belt sheath?

i don't notice any smell in the ink.




oh and this deserves worthy mention. hell, it deserves it's own thread. i'll write another thread tomorrow, maybe.

i emailed rick's address asking a question about how to change the ink cartridges. turns out, there's a tiny allen-head set screw in the pen attachment that holds the ink cartridge in place. unscrew the set screw, pull out cartridge, replace, and screw. too easy.

i got a pretty good, and quick email response from hinderer knives. so +1 on customer service.





and then about 10 days later, i got a care package in iraq from lori, rick's wife. lots of goodies, magazines, and snacks i shared with my troops. and on top of that, they sent me 2 more ink refills and a new allen wrench for the set screw.


they put a lot of effort into this.



these people are the real heroes.
 
Damn, you just about sold me on one of these. I just bought a couple of Fisher Space pens, though, so I think I can resist. :D
 
just ordered an aluminum model from arizona custom knives.

ill let you all know what i think in a few days!!
 
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