How useful are bayonets?

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  1. Billy02

    Billy02

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    Apr 12, 2018
    How useful are bayonets? Is a rifle with a knife attached more effective than just a knife?
     
  2. red mag

    red mag

    Apr 12, 1999
    Well you get a knife with a looong handle. ;)
     
  3. Billy02

    Billy02

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    Apr 12, 2018
    haha, true in a way. but what will be more effective, like using just a knife or with a rifle?
     
  4. braillediver

    braillediver Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2007
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  5. b00n

    b00n

    Dec 15, 2016
    Not for food prep? I mean it depends on the application.
    If you mean during combat, they serve their respective purpose for close quarters stabbing. You have more reach while just a knife allows for more mobility. There is a reason Ghurkas used Kukris instead of Bayonets.
     
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  6. GermanyChris

    GermanyChris

    Feb 18, 2015
    They're so useful most of us leave them in the ISU 90
     
  7. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Depends on the application. The bayonet turns the rifle into an improvised pike. Nothing says stop better than a sharp pointy thing hanging right in front of you.

    It is an interesting subject, since the bayonets, which is a relatively recent invention (the first ones were made about 300 years ago), cycled through just about every historical blade shape ever invented.

    n2s
     
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  8. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I imagine a bayonet would be worth its weight in gold when you're in the trench, with no more ammo left and you're being overrun by the enemy.
     
  9. kvaughn

    kvaughn Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Trained with one in basic and didn't touch another one for the rest of my tour.--'72 to '76--KV
     
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  10. Dr Heelhook

    Dr Heelhook

    Jul 24, 2007
    As a weapon? Longer range, more power. Very likely a better option.
     
  11. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    In a modern context they're nearly useless. Historically they were essential. Back in the 1700's you'd fire off several volleys at each other then fix bayonets and advance to melee, and they were a way of converting a long musket into a spear, which is a terrifyingly effective weapon compared to things like swords. Officers, not burdened with a musket since they directed firing, would have a dedicated polearm weapon like a spontoon or halberd.
     
  12. Sonnydaze

    Sonnydaze Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 6, 2009
    Heck...a long knife that shoots! I'll take one of those, please.
     
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  13. McFeeli

    McFeeli

    Feb 13, 2017
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  14. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I find bayonets essentially useless when compared to the usefulness of more traditional fixed and folding knives. But I know I have had the urge to get one for myself just because they're cool. But I have held back as I know I'll never use the thing and it will simply collect dust.

    It would be a bitch to open a can of beans with the bayonet attached to a rifle.
     
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  15. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    I used mine to keep the 'ol smoke pole muzzle down in camp back when I did Civil War Reenactments.
    My use was historically accurate. During that war a lot of men on both sides used their bayonet for that, or to hold a candle.
    The one thing they didn't use them for was sticking the enemy.
    After the war there was no recorded instance of anyone on either side having suffered a wound or killed from a bayonet, after any of the battles.
    (Yes, they did keep track of wounds.)
    FYI: Even though the Civil War had more wounded and killed than all the wars prior and after combined that the US has been involved in, roughly 40% of the troops on both sides never fired a live round (they shot blanks). If they did shot live rounds, they intentionally fired over the enemy's heads. Since a lot of families had someone fighting in both sides, (they thought if they had fought for the winning side they would not suffer as much incrimination and/or retribution, no matter who won) the soldiers did not want to take a chance on shooting their brother, cousin, uncle, father, etc.
     
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  16. marcinek

    marcinek Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Useful for what? A WWI style infantry charge? Home defense? Modern combat? Making sushi?
     
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  17. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
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    why bother.
     
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  18. ourgon

    ourgon

    Feb 27, 2013
    British soldiers did successful charge with bayonets in Iraq, 2004 and in Afghanistan, 2011 - google corporal Sean Jones of 1st Battalion The Princess of Wales's Regiment.

    Bayonet on rifle isn't only better reach, also more powerful thrust or slash, because of it's weight. Typical infantryman carry 4 kg [8,8 ib] rifle.
     
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  19. Planterz

    Planterz

    Mar 26, 2004
    If you're going to carry a rifle, and carry a knife, might as well carry a knife that you can stick on the end of a rifle. You never know.
     
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  20. Planterz

    Planterz

    Mar 26, 2004
    You mean like in the link in post 4?
     
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