I found two pawpaw patches

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I have never eaten pawpaws, Never seen one. Since last fall though I found two pawpaw stands . Maybe a hundred trees in each. One stand of trees are pretty small with just a couple of big trees. It is only a few miles away. The other stand is full of big mature trees but it is fifty miles away. I hate to drive fifty miles to pick something I may not even like , or may not be ready for harvest. The question, do young trees produce much fruit? They produce in the fall, correct?

I just ordered a Cold Steel Bushman Bowie. I plan on attaching it to a stick to harvest pawpaws and oyster mushrooms that are to high to reach. Thats my excuse anyhow.
 
if you like bananas you'll like pawpaws. yes it is in the fall when they are ready. you have to wait till they turn black before eating them. if you have a few trees local then i would watch them to see when they are ripe.
 
Paw Paw makes an outstanding fireboard. Use it with slim Yucca stem hand drill. For a bowdrill use basswood, cottonwood or a large Yucca stem.
 
dipbait, it really depends on a lot of factors as to whether or not you get a good crop. If it froze at all during the flowering in the spring, crops will be small or non-existent. Also, the leaf roller moth, peduncle borer and larva of the zebra swallowtail have ruined my crops in the past. Usually the leaf roller is more of a problem during dry years. I predict a pretty good crop this year as wet as it has been. You really have to keep checking the trees consistently starting about the last week in September and into October because it seems they can all fall overnight sometimes. Once they fall, they don't last very long. What doesn't quickly rot gets eaten by critters.

Also, I have to differ here with Richard. Color is not the best indicator of taste. I go by smell, feel, and finally taste to make sure. Actually, most times, the best tasting ones I've had have been splotchy and greenish, yellowish brown. If it is green but feels soft or the skin splits and gives to moderate pressure, and it smells fruity, it is probably good to go. Usually, if it is still on the tree and you don't see any others laying around, they aren't ripe. If it is green, others are on the ground, and the greenish ones fall when you lightly shake the tree, they are usually ripe or will be with laying on your counter a couple of days. Just bust one open and test it out to make sure. You'll know if it isn't ready.

Small trees can produce more than larger sometimes, sometimes not. You just never know.

One thing you have to be aware of also is how a patch grows. Generally, if you find a large grove, there are a few "mother trees" and the smaller ones are actually "clones" that sprout off the roots of the mothers. This can be a problem because trees with the same genes generally can't produce fruit. They need to be pollinated by a tree with different genes. Now, if you have the Sunflower variety of Paw Paw like we have here in KS, there is some evidence that it is the only exception to the rule and can pollinate itself. There is a good chance you have this variety since you are right next door. However, I have found groves that are seemingly of the same genes and with nary a paw paw to be found.

Let us know how you do this fall. I'll do the same! I love the Paw Paw. Planted a couple of my own a few years ago out back. Generally, a tree needs to be about 5-6 years old I think to produce fruit.
 
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Do small trees produce much fruit?

What do you mean by small exactly? A 10-15 foot tree can be a good producer, but so can a 30-40 footer; you just never know. Usually a tree needs to be 5-6 years or so old to produce. Out in the wild, you can't really tell how old a tree is by it's height because so many factors effect how fast they grow; soil, ph, rain, sunlight, etc. So, unfortunately you have to sort of scout them to see how they produce from year to year. I would say this would be a good year to see how a grove is going to produce given the good growing season we are having; so far anyway.

I have seen some 10-15 foot trees produce 2 or 3 gallon buckets full of fruit before. You don't want to pick Paw Paws and put them in anything larger than that by the way. The weight of too many Paw Paws stacked on each other will mash a good number of them on the trip home. This is the main reason you don't see them sold at grocery stores; they are just too hard to ship from field to shelf. I usually use plastic grocery bags. You can fit a lot of bags in your pocket, they are light to carry, and the handles make it easy to carefully carry small numbers in several bags.
 
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My kids on one of our many Paw Paw missions. Note they're green. These were on the ground and completely ripe and tasty.

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OK. Its September and I visited both PawPaw patches. Not one PawPaw.:mad:

Now is a good time to dig sassafrass roots though. And if the leaves have not turned yellow, pluck a few of the smallest to dry for file' gumbo.

Also it is time to scout out persimmons. You'll likely see the almond shaped seeds first in raccoon and coyote scat. The trees won't be too far away, less than a mile or so usually. They may not be ripe yet, but locate and watch them. I often find them by the sweet smell in the air when they are ripe. Then I have a lot of competition for the fruit from critters and bugs. Persimmons can be made into jams, puddings, breads, pies and wine, or eaten raw in the woods. Be sure to have plenty of water handy if you eat one that isn't ripe.

Grinning like a possum eating persimmons has meaning! :D
 
OK. Its September and I visited both PawPaw patches. Not one PawPaw.:mad:

Should be seeing them if they are there. You may have found clone colonies and, if you have, they probably won't produce much, if any, fruit unless close to another tree/colony that is genetically different (with the possible exception of the Sunflower variety). I'll be headed out in a couple of weeks, but I've already seen fruits here. They can be very hard to see in the tree because of their color. They camouflage in there real, real good.
 
Resurrecting this old thread.

I was fishing this past week and found my first pawpaw fruit {I think]. It was overhanging the lake and just loaded with fruit.The fruit was very hard , couldnt even slice it. The banks were thick with these tress but this was the only one producing.Anyways , it was 75 miles away and I wont be able to go back later and harvest. Also found some fresh Oyster mushrooms.
 
At least you got those mushrooms!

And, someday, you will find ripe paw-paw. Haven't eaten any in decades, but I do recall how good they taste.
 
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