I really want an AFCK.......


knife law moderator
Dec 25, 1998
......with an Axis lock! I just got a 710. I really like the lock design. I could take or leave the knife though. What I really want to see is an AFCK with the Axis, and M-2 steel.


Now THAT would be a knife worth checking out!
Sure hope it comes to pass!

If it's stupid but works, then it isn't stupid.

It can't be done.

The AFCK is tip-down (the way God intended folding knives to be carried), and the Axis lock mechanism demands tip-up.

Remember as it says in the good book, "Let your folders be carried tip-down. Anything else comes from the evil one." Maybe I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like that.

Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
What?!? Explain that, please. I have been trying to visualize the problem and am just not seeing it.
I don't see it either as a AXIS AFCK was in the works last I heard.

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Mike Turber
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Do it! Do it right! Do it right NOW!

I've taken apart the Axis-Lock 710 and I can't figue why you think it must be tip-up. Do you mean that there would be no room for the clip screws or the ambi-capable lock would be blocked? I'm sure Benchmade could design a clip that got around this, and didn't obstruct the grip so much while they were at it (one of my few gripes with the AFCK). As for ambidextrous... screw it. The lock could still be ambi but blocked on one side or the other depending on user-decided clip placement.

On the other hand, the AFCK has a perfectly good and reliable lock already, one that feels much better to me than the Axis-Lock. If it were made Axis-Lock I'd buy one, sure, but I'd still prefer the liner-lock version.

That would be very cool.

But while they are at it, I think they should do some further ergo work, jazz up the platform. Smooth out the contours, shorten the index to end of handle ratio, I don't know....

The Mel Pardue Axis ships pivot up, and the clip does get in the way of the lock ever so slightly, but hardly enough to notice.

Marion David Poff aka Eye, one can msg me at mdpoff@hotmail.com If I fail to check back with this thread and you want some info, email me.

My site is at: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/1770 Including my review of the Kasper AFCK, thougths on the AFCK and interview of Bob Kasper.

As I recall the new BM Pardue Axis can have the clip mounted for tip up or tip down.

I can see a problem with the AFCK trying to fit the Axis lock, the index finger notch and the pocket clip all into the same space. Maybe just block the axis lock on the clip side as long as the lock stud would allow the clip to slide over the pocket.
I suspect that the biggest obstacle to an Axis lock AFCK is legal, not a question of design. Spyderco licenses the AFCK's hole. I don't know if they would be willing to let Benchmade put their trademarked innovation on a lock that they don't have an equivalent of. Maybe once the Rolling Lock Military is out Spyderco might let Benchmade modify the AFCK. At least that is my guess.
I'll take two of the Evil models please.

Two of my favorite "non-Balisongs" in one. Sounds like a winner to me.

Clay G.

My clips never get in the way. I keep them in a drawer at home

I am sure that if Benchmade makes an Axis AFCK, and I hope they do, extra M-2 on mine please, they will ship it with clip holes for either tip up or tip down, just like the 710.

Last I heard, Spyderco is only charging a nominal licensing fee for the use of the hole, more a matter of honor than anything else, and I doubt if they care what kind of knife Benchmade uses it on.