Jeff cracks me up!

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In a post yesterday about uses for the Junglas Jeff responded with the following statement about it, "it's not that good" love it! No where else could an owner say of his own product "it's not that good" and get away with it and they keep selling like hot cakes, way to go Jeff!! I beg to differ with you though. Few tools can be batoned through 6-7 inch frozen wood over and over to attain dry wood or what ever and hardly show a mark let alone not break. I find my Junglas indispensable. I don't think I would want to be doing this with a lite machete. I and many others think it is the best bushcraft tool on the market. I wonder what would happen to sales if you bragged about how AWESOME it is rather than dissing your own product??? You crack me up! :D
 
When I say it's not that good I mean it honestly. It pisses me off for a reviewer to a review a knife and it be the best damn thing since a pocket on a shirt. Face it folks, just about ANY review you read or watch has a certain amount of personal bullshit in it. No knife is that good. For example: My machete out-slices the Junglas in vegetation but where do you hear this in reviews. Where does the reviewer justify a knife costing 150 bucks against a knife costing 10 bucks doing some chores better? I guess my point is I'm sort of sick of this whole bullshit industry in many ways. We simply build knives. We don't build the best of anything. We just build knives designed around what we do and what others have asked us to come up with. ESEE is not special, nor is any other knife company. I have found VERY few folks that actually need our knives so we are building knives more for the wanting crowd than anything (ourselves included) and while there is nothing wrong with that, let's get real about the facts and not have some review sway us into believing one of our knives is just great or absolutley needed. Again, this industry runs on bullshit so it is refreshing to to come to this forum and talk with people who use knives. Nowadays I've gotten to the point I refuse to pick up a knife or gun magazine and read ANY article. I simple don't trust product reviews anymore.
 
bobbystoney said:
This attitude just makes me like the Esee brand even more.
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Me too. That's the whole point of Randall's Adventure & Training and ESEE: a life philosphy - not just hardware because anyone can sell that.
 
Jeff,

You and your family (company) are top notch as are your products. The standards you hold and hold everyone to that does business with you is top notch. There's no bs about you when it comes to your company and your products.

This my friend is why you build such a loyal user base. You come to your forums. You listen, I mean really listen to your customers. You call us on our bs but have no problem calling yourself on it if need be.

You sir may not like it but I'm going to say it anyways. You sir are in my opinion a true gentleman and a man of his word.

Hopefully one day I'll get to meet you and be able to call you friend.

Take care and God bless,
Kirk
 
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Kirk,

I appreciate the note. I consider all of us friends here and I don't hold myself to any higher standard than I do my friends. I think being straight-up, cordial and respectful to others is a way of life. I also think that being able to laugh at yourself, call yourself a dumabss and let others know when they did something wrong is also part of that.
 
Is this the first instance of truth in advertising? Maybe that I have seen.

Thank you Jeff for your honesty I really needed it right now. I have become very jaded lately.

I don't own an esee product and have never posted over here so I am not a "fanboy" or whatever you call it, so i have no reason to kiss your butt. Thank you for your honesty it means a great deal to me. I know your intention was not to do this but you have made a fan.
 
Wow. Why do people get appreciative of honesty? Doing right should not be rewarded since doing right is simply the right thing to do in life. Not that I don't appreciate the comments but this world is really screwed up when someone feels they need to thank someone for being honest. I simply expect and demand honesty in my dealings in life. If someone is dishonest I simply don't have anything to do with them. It's almost like all we expect nowadays is dishonesty. I simply choose to live by a man's word and handshake until he screws over me.
 
spydusse said:
:jerkit: okay when are we going to start singing kumbaya my lord
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Sure, start singin'

R.A.T. said:
Wow. Why do people get appreciative of honesty? Doing right should not be rewarded since doing right is simply the right thing to do in life. Not that I don't appreciate the comments but this world is really screwed up when someone feels they need to thank someone for being honest. I simply expect and demand honesty in my dealings in life. If someone is dishonest I simply don't have anything to do with them. It's almost like all we expect nowadays is dishonesty. I simply choose to live by a man's word and handshake until he screws over me.
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If you look around there are many aspects of daily life where this is not the case. Some people have no choice but to accept it because it's familiar, warm, & friendly. There are lots of people that chose to not do the right thing, and many that do. What really sucks is that when some choses to do the right thing, it seems to go unacknowledged. Don't need a parade, but how's about a little recognition... I know I appreciate honesty in my transactions.
 
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I have to give a big +1 to the straightforwardness of Jeff and Co. You really do make good tools and encourage us to build good skills. Thanks for the service, thanks for the laughs, thanks for keeping it real.

God bless,
Adam
 
R.A.T. said:
Wow. Why do people get appreciative of honesty? Doing right should not be rewarded since doing right is simply the right thing to do in life. Not that I don't appreciate the comments but this world is really screwed up when someone feels they need to thank someone for being honest. I simply expect and demand honesty in my dealings in life. If someone is dishonest I simply don't have anything to do with them. It's almost like all we expect nowadays is dishonesty. I simply choose to live by a man's word and handshake until he screws over me.
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Still hung up on lion steel
 
RevDevil said:
Don't need a parade, but how's about a littel recognition... I know I appreciate honesty in my transactions.
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I understand but it seems we are all so shocked by honesty nowadays that we need to instantly tell someone "Thanks for being honest!" Use to honesty was an expected trait. No one was shocked when someone told the truth. These days dishonesty is the expected trait so no one really says anything anymore when someone is rude, disrepectful or dishonest. In fact, we often make excuses for it saying "he was having a bad day" or something similar. I just simply refuse to live life like that. I expect and demand honesty, courtesy and respect. I give the same as I expect so when I get that it is not something to be rewarded. The reward is the mutual honesty and respect between men, nothing more. When I get the opposite I immediately punish the offender. People get upset when you call a guy out but I will in a minute if he's wrong. I expect to be called out if I do something wrong. Again, that is mutual association. I'm tired of this politically correct bullshit of "turn the other cheek".
 
I'm not buying it Jeff you're doing the old flip & switch the BS of anti BS it's all just BS isn't it! I suddenly want to go start a small fire in my back yard with one of my no BS ESEE's
Jeff you sir are good!!
 
exidor said:
I'm not buying it Jeff you're doing the old flip & switch the BS of anti BS it's all just BS isn't it! I suddenly want to go start a small fire in my back yard with one of my no BS ESEE's
Jeff you sir are good!!
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The simple fix is to not buy any more of our knives and walk away. We're not asking for new customers but we do appreciate every customer we have ;)
 
R.A.T. said:
Wow. Why do people get appreciative of honesty? Doing right should not be rewarded since doing right is simply the right thing to do in life. Not that I don't appreciate the comments but this world is really screwed up when someone feels they need to thank someone for being honest. I simply expect and demand honesty in my dealings in life. If someone is dishonest I simply don't have anything to do with them. It's almost like all we expect nowadays is dishonesty. I simply choose to live by a man's word and handshake until he screws over me.
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Finally, someone said what I've been thinking!

People tell me that I'm a really nice guy or that I have common sense. It's not that I'm nicer than most people, it's that most people aren't as nice as they should be! Honesty and kindness should be commonplace!
 
R.A.T. said:
The simple fix is to not buy any more of our knives and walk away. We're not asking for new customers but we do appreciate every customer we have ;)
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They all say it's simple that's BS to.
just waiting for the laser strike man;)
 
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