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Knife advice

Discussion in 'Kitchen Cutlery & Tools' started by Bunny74, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Bunny74

    Bunny74

    6
    Apr 1, 2018
    Hi all. First time post here.
    I've been looking for a decent knife for general purpose cutting meat and fish that is harder than the other knives I have which are around 55 HRC.

    I've read a couple of posts here but was wondering what people's thoughts are on the Iseya G series VG 10 Damascus 150mm knife which is 60-61 HRC. Its around half the price of some other options I've looked at so far.
    Any other advice on other options on a 120 to 150mm boning style knife appreciated.
    Thanks.​
     
  2. lieferung

    lieferung Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2016
  3. Mecha

    Mecha Madscienceforge.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Boris?
     
  4. Bunny74

    Bunny74

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    Apr 1, 2018
    I haven't seen much in that section yet but I'll keep looking.
     
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  5. Bill1170

    Bill1170

    Dec 20, 2007
    Damascus blades on modern kitchen blades are pretty, but they don’t offer improved performance for their higher price. You’re paying for the appearance. VG-10 at Rc60+ will be a big jump from what you’re using now.
     
  6. Bunny74

    Bunny74

    6
    Apr 1, 2018
    Thanks. So those options seem pretty good? Anything else in that sort of price range?
     
  7. Fixall

    Fixall Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Mar 26, 2018
    Going by the hardness of chef knife you are using now, I'm guessing it's probably a Victorinox Fibrox Pro Chef Knife? If not... It's what you should have been using as they are a great value for under $40. I use a Victorinox 12" Straight Butcher Knife (as well as an 8" curved breaking knife that I hate) five days a week at work and the previously mentioned chef knife at home.

    About the blades you linked...

    The 8" Damascus Chef Knife doesn't list the steel, so for $35 I imagine you're just paying for the pretty Damascus look.
    The 5" Damascus Boning Knide would be excellent for $30 if it actually uses VG10. I kind of have a hard time believing it uses that steel considering the price and the fact that it's coming from China (it was my understanding that VG10 is only made in Japan).
    The 8" Chef Knife for $65 would also be excellent if it actually uses VG10. Again, for that price, and coming from China, I have my doubts. I really think you're just paying for the Damascus looks. Maybe someone more learned on kitchen cutlery can chime in though.

    In my experience, the Victorinox Chef Knife is ridiculously hard to top in the $40 and under price range, and you'll find many professional chefs agree. Personally, if I was going to upgrade my Chef knife and wanted to keep it under $100, I would be going with a Wusthof Classic 8" Chef Knife because I haven't held anything more comfortable in my decade of restaurant/kitchen experience. They regularly go on sale for around $80 but the steel isn't much better or harder (58 HRC) than the steel used in the Victorinox. Just keep in mind that comfort is just as important as the steel when it comes to a Chef knife. Comfort equals confidence which ends up increasing your speed and safety.

    As far as boning knives go... You're on your own as I'm still hunting for one that I REALLY like. My little brother is an avid hunter and angler and swears by his cheap Dexter Russell Boning Knife... I don't like them though. Until I find a boning knife I like, I've actually just been using a KAI Pure Komachi 6". I don't imagine you want to go too hard with the boning knife (if you're going to use it for it's intended purpose) because you need it to be a bit flexible... And you don't want it chipping all to hell when you inevitably end up hitting the bone. I also wouldn't spend too much on a boning knife for that very reason. In fact, the only reason I own a boning knife at all, is so that I don't damage my knives that I like, lol.

    Ok, I'm going to stop typing now. I'm high as hell off my post operative meds and I just wrote a wall of text. Sorry about that!
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2018
  8. Bunny74

    Bunny74

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    Apr 1, 2018
    Thanks for that. You may be right and with that price its too good to be true.
     
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  9. lieferung

    lieferung Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2016
    FYI guys there's a rule against linking to non-supporting dealers, I think especially active listings on the Bay.

    Also I second Victorinox kitchen knives, they work great.
     
  10. Fixall

    Fixall Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Mar 26, 2018
    Sorry about that.

    I'll get rid of the hyperlinks and go read the rules more thoroughly now that it looks like I'm gonna be here awhile. :)

    *edit
    Left the KnifeCenter hyperlink.
     
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  11. Fixall

    Fixall Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Mar 26, 2018
    The Iseya G series looks to be a decently regarded knife. If you're NOT currently using the Victorinox I was talking about earlier, I really would highly suggest giving one a go. They really are leaps and bounds above most everything near their price point.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2018
  12. Bunny74

    Bunny74

    6
    Apr 1, 2018
    The knives I have are Victorinox. I have a few and really like them.
     
  13. Bunny74

    Bunny74

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    Apr 1, 2018

    Sorry I didn't know that. I'll delete them now.
     
  14. Spideyjg

    Spideyjg

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    Nov 7, 2017
    Quality cost money in anything. A better leap above Vics is quality German, Wusthof, Zwilling/Henckles, Messermeister, F Dick.

    A leap above them but not breaking the bank would be Mac.

    Everything gets dull so unless you already have something to sharpen high end Japanese add new sharpening stuff to the cost

    Jim
     

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