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Knife pistol. Very interesting!!

According to the site the price is $399.00

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Louis Buccellato
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I saw these a few months ago. Pretty cool looking. Might end up with one some day. But is it really practical or the "worst" of both worlds?

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[This message has been edited by Kingknives (edited 23 July 1999).]
 
There was a thread last year in one of Mad Dog's places over in KnifeForums on "Silliest Knife," with nominations limited to knives that had some aspirations toward high quality, as opposed to the gawdawful cheap stuff. The Knifepistol won the vote.

Among other things, if you're using it as a knife, you're pointing a gun in all sorts of directions.


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- JKM
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Combination handgun/blades have been around at least since the 1600s. Take a downsized cutlass and graft it to a match/flintlock and you had an ideal (to some) boarding weapon during the Jolly Roger days.

The Chinese (specifically Norinco, the state arms manufacturer) makes a combo fixed-blade knife/.22LR pistol (type 86 I believe). Four barrels with the trigger mechanism as part of the hilt. Looks like a modern bayonet with an oversized handle. Blade length is around 20 cm.

An interesting exotic that never made it to US shores. No idea about availability in other parts of the world.

Joel
 
Isn't one of main concerns when wielding a firearm to NOT have anything obstructing the point of exit for the bullet? I wrote a reply to this very issue on rec.knives, but it still kind of makes me wonder... What is the purpose of that monstrously ugly contraption? Maybe someone can simply tell me what the point is with the gun-knife, because short of a Swiss Army knife and those CASE XX Hobo things, anything of this nature seems to complicate the issue, not simplify by consolidation of apparatuses. A tool-knife, sure. A scissor-knife, that's cool. But a knife mounted on a non-rifle (as in NOT a bayonet) is just the most ridiculous thing I think I have ever seen in the world of guns OR knives.

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Robert Joseph Ansbro
 
The sword pistol was used in Europe as a hunting sidearm during the 18th and 19th centuries. After you down the game with a single shot musket, the hunter would close on the game (Wild Boar etc.) and finish the animal with a hunting sword, or hunting sword/sword pistol. Accuracy was not an issue at that range.
 
Some people load their homes with hippo toast racks and brass cattails. The Pistol-Knife is at least as novel and no less practical than these.

Do I want one? No.

David Rock
 
WTF was that?! It doesn't exactly look like a knife pistol...like I've seen the cheep likes of in SMKW.

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The popular opinion of the modern mind is that firearm/edged weapon combos are silly affectations that those crazy old guys in olden times were kinda fond of.

In reality, they absolutely kick heavy amounts of butt, when kept in context. As Not2Sharp pointed out, the idea is to be able to give a single volley and then use the blade.

This has some significance in hunting, if you hunt like those crazy European nobles did(actualy, I do sometimes), but it's mostly a defence issue. On a utility knife, it's a bad idea.

I don't think these two knives are realy designed well to be functional pistol knives, in this case someone wanted to make something, but wasn't sure what it was supposed to do.

It's like building a car without taking into account how it will be driven. Nothing wrong with cars, just this one won't be well thought-out.

Like any other weapon, a pistolknife can be done poorly, but a well done example is a quite useful weapon, in context.

I built one in fifty caliber(blackpowder) some time ago from parts I bought at Dixie Gunworks. Not a kit, though they do sell one, mine was homebrew. It worked real good.

Balance wasn't adversly effected, it handled well, the extra weight didn't bother me at all because knives aren't heavy, and it was as accurate as I am for as far as I can shoot a regular pistol(not far, maybe 20feet, ranged weapons have never been my strong suit).

Since I suck with pistols, I like the idea of being able to give a volley before falling back on the blade. I keep meaning to make another one that fires modern metalic cartridges, something fat and slow like a .45 probably.

Now if you want to argue that they aren't as effective or accurate as modern firearms, I agree. If you want to say they aren't the way to go for a utility knife, I agree. But if you are saying they are inherently poor weapons, you are just, wrong.

In context they work great. Before reliable repeating arms were developed they were a good choice to give you the ranged attack of a firearm and still be able to instantly fall back on an edged weapon should it misfire/you can't reload. For those of us with limited abilities with pistols, they can be a good answer. For people who enjoy physical combat in the woods with wild animals, they are effective.
 
While I retain my aforementioned opinion of the curious object under discussion, I am intrigued by Snick's idea for something he could use in his pursuit of hard to kill things with big teeth.

I'm reminded of the glove pistol that is ilustrated here and there -- a sort of plunger-trigger entends in front of the fist when the hand is in the fist mode. I can envision a couple of barrels (might as well make them smooth-bore) beside a blade on some sort of pike, such that when you sunk the blade in to a depth of your liking the "trigger" would be depressed and the big .452 lead things would come loping out at a few hundred feet per second.

Not much use for it here in the desert and I'm a bit old for taking up reptile lassoing.

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Desert Rat

 
I'd probably accidently shoot my ceramic sharpening system. Intriguing concept though. Was the top one a folder?

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Both of these are fixed blades, but historicaly folding versions in light calibers were not uncommon, as recently as the late 19th century.
 
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