LOOking Axe

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Looking for a "fine" (Quality) Axe to take camping to Canada and Alaska.I wont be packing it.
Must be able to split logs with it, but will only be able to bring one tool and am limited for weight and space. so I cant have the mother of all axes and friends. Just one "fine" capable axe.
Thanks
 
If you're driving, I'd assume that you'd be visiting regular camgrounds with gritty stumps to chop on and poor wood to split. That's no place for a really good axe. The only Gransfors that's really good for splitting wood rather than chopping it, is the larger 3.3lb.
 
Thanks Jimbo,
does the recommended axe have a model name?
Large splitting Axe.
Where's a good retailer?
Thanks
 
Jimbo reads posts more carefully than I do! If splitting is your main goal, try the Gransfors Large Splitting Maul (about 5.5 lbs). I'm very happy with mine. If you click on the website image, you'll get a big picture. The wedge is also very impressive. I believe this forum has prior threads on both those items (the search feature should pull them up).
 
The 3.3lb axe is called the "American Falling Axe". It's actually more of a general purpose axe, than a true falling axe but has some incredible attributes. I got mine from Lee Valley Tools in Canada, but they should be widely available. Probably about $80 US, though.
The splitting maul is also incredible - all the GB products are...
But if gritty stumps in campgrounds are going to be the use - I'd stay with a cheap axe and just sharpen it before using.
 
Jim is you get a chance could you get a top down shot of the GB felling axe compared to the forest axe, or Iltis. I am curious as to the nature of the profile, and more than a bit disappointed that it isn't a true dedicated felling axe - good to know though.

-Cliff
 
Cliff,

My GB double bit looks to have a true felling profile. The head doesn't thicken out enough to be a very good splitter. Wish I had a digital camera so I could show you.
 
I'll see if I can get a camera to get some pictures up this weekend - otherwise Monday.
Basically the axe blade is very thick compared to most (even the Hults) - it has to be since the blade is very short to accommodate straight as well as curved handles. While the axe loses out in depth of cut, it is very accurate and well balance. And, of course, it is much better for general duty than the optimized cutting profiles of the other GB's.
I have a 2lb Warren which is very similar - so I'm a little doubting of the notion that the AFA is an axe of modern design.
True falling axes are the narrow bladed double bits of about 12" from edge to edge - or more. They have to be that way for cutting deep notches in big trees. They'd never cut down to the bottom of the notch if they were wider, thicker or lighter. I sure like my thin bladed Iltis - but it's only good on smaller stuff, and not really a falling axe either - being too wide of blade and light. True falling axes are a "one job tool".
 
DwK, I exchanged a few emails with Lee Valley about the Felling axe vs the double bit, and was under the impression than the double bit is actually thicker than the felling axe.

To clarify, when I refer to felling, I am speaking of soft woods like white pine, and of small size, 12" is rare, most is 8-10". The vast majority of homes built here were from felled wood which is why nothing large exists, but even back then 18" was a large tree, which was good because carrying anything bigger is a little difficult.

Double bit axes while common in some areas for felling are almost unknown in others possibly because they may have never been considered, or it could even be a manufacturing problem. Some woodsmen are dead set against them however because of the inherent danger of the second bit.

The narrow bit is a sure sign of a hard wood felling axe though as it directly raises penetration. This may be why they never caught on here as mainly soft woods are cut which can easily still be cleared with wide bits so a more narrow bit would simply require more hits or be problematic with wedging on the softer woods.

Most of the double bit heads I have seen are swampers though not felling patterns and are generally short headed with thick bits. You can generally find them on ebay on occasion, swampers not felling patterns. I am curious as to the performance of a true felling axe of that pattern so I keep an eye out for them, though I don't think they are optimal for the current class of wood here.

-Cliff
 
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