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R.Taylor

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C40 Jot Singh Khalsa,
C36 military,
C59 Shabaria,
C60 Massad Ayoob,
C68 Gunting,
C63 Chinook II,
C69 lil'temperance,
C81 para military,
thanks for any and all input>
regards,Rick.
 
I can say that the Paramilitary is one of Spyderco's best. It is built like a tank, and it just feels natural in the hand. The profile and flat-ground blade makes for a great slicer. It is equally at home as an EDC, and for when you need a sharp knife in the kitchen.
 
I had a Maasad Ayoob, and it was an excellent knife, but it was definately a purely defensive knife, in my opinion. The shape of the handle, puts the blade at an angle that is perfect for self defense!!
 
I can't say enough good things about the Lil'Temperance. It has replaced my Native as EDC and farm knife. Tough as anything and feels great in the hand. A little large in the pocket but not excessively so. I switched all mine to tip-up carry - just feels better to me that way. The clip grips the jeans well enough that I haven't had to spend an hour searching for it in the cattle yard as I had several times with the Native. I like it for EDC as the blade is fairly short at 3" and the grren G10 looks more utilitarian than tactical.

The Chinook II is a good sturdy knife. Several friends use them as deer cleaning knives. Good for the field but too large in the pocket and intimidating to others for an EDC for me.

I have tried the Military but it just didn't take for me. I like my knives stout, and the Military feels too thin in my hand. I am sure it is plenty strong and the lighter build no doubt makes it easier to carry. I just prefer a blade of that length to be at least 4mm thick.

I hope these ramblings are of some use to you.
Lloyd
 
I have a couple of the above on the way & was considering a couple of more. We have no Syderco dealer here & it's hard to know what's best from pictures so keep the info coming.
thanks ,very much appreciated,
regards,from Rick in Nfld.,Canada. :thumbup:
 
Rick, I tried to take a picture of some of these for you. No sun today so had to use the flash - details not too good. First time using an image host - hope it works.
Serrated and plain edge versions of most. Mini-Manix added to each end as these seem to go with the others. Lil'Temperances are the green handles. Chinooks towards the left. Militaries to middle right. Paramilitary towards right side.
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R.Taylor said:
C40 Jot Singh Khalsa,
C36 military,
C59 Shabaria,
C60 Massad Ayoob,
C68 Gunting,
C63 Chinook II,
C69 lil'temperance,
C81 para military,
thanks for any and all input>
regards,Rick.
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I've only handled the Shabaria, Ayoob, Gunting, and Lil Temp, so I'll tell you what I think of them.

Shabaria- Great knife, a little small for my hands, and not very lefty friendly with the liner lock(i'm inept at liner locks) Very elegant knife though, and very comfortable in the hands. If you're right handed and like liner locks, go for it.

Massad Ayoob- My EDC, especially if its the less slipper almite version. Ambi carry, blade opens FAST, and the blade angle is ideal for most everyday cutting.

Lil' Temp- Other than the pocket eating clip and its lack of lefty friendlyness, this knife is flawless. Its a great general use knife.

Gunting- Anyone who knows me should already know I love the Gunting. You've already read my response to your other thread from a few days ago about the Gunting, so it would redundant now.;) Save some for me though, I always need more.
 
I have a Jot Singh Khalsa. Great EDC knife, and its looks make it interesting. While it could work in a Self Defense situation, there are many Spyderco's that are better suited for that. Still, it feels good in my hand and I like the fact it looks different from most pocket knives.
 
TheKnifeCollector said:
I had a Maasad Ayoob, and it was an excellent knife, but it was definately a purely defensive knife, in my opinion. The shape of the handle, puts the blade at an angle that is perfect for self defense!!
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I disagree with this. I think it is utilitarian as well, not just for SD.
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Also, this one: C59 Shabaria
I handled it once and it just didn't feel right to me. I know some people liked it, but it was never that popular. Same thing with the Jot though, but I really love that design.
 
R.Taylor said:
C40 Jot Singh Khalsa,
C60 Massad Ayoob,
C68 Gunting,
C69 lil'temperance,
thanks for any and all input>
regards,Rick.
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I've only handled the above knives so:

Jot: mine was received as a used or at least carried knife, It doesn't lock up or seem as tight as the others and seems to be the least sturdy of the four I know about...but it looks cool. However with the points and bumps it gets in the way of other pocket items.

Massad: much sturdier than Jot. Seems to be more collectiable only as more people desire it now over the Jot, but that could change.

Gunting: Very sturdy. Demands the highest prices of any of the four and will likely stay that way. Again sharp point makes it hard to get other items from pocket...but there are several aftermarket belt pouches to carry it.

Lil Temp: My favorite. Possibly the "sturdiest". Unless you wear quality denim or Carhart type clothes, you can expect the clip to cut your pockets. Seems like the perfect ranch/farm/work knife of the group. Probably of the four the most avail., but will demand the second highest prices. Is the widest of the four so definately takes up pocket space.

Hope that helps as well.
 
Thanks guys for your opinions.They are very much appreciated.
There are no Spyderco dealers here so i have to buy them to try them.
Hence all the questions>
Thanks again if you think of anything else please let me know.
allthe best,regards,Rick.
 
zenheretic said:
Gunting: Very sturdy. Demands the highest prices of any of the four and will likely stay that way. Again sharp point makes it hard to get other items from pocket...but there are several aftermarket belt pouches to carry it.
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And for those who still prefer to carry the Gunting in a pocket, there is a "sheath" that actally fits in ones pocket, and protects the pocket lining from being destroyed by the horns and ramp of the Gunting. The sheaths are the cheapest part of carrying the Gunting;)

All bias aside, the Lil' Temp is the best overall out of that selection.
 
zenheretic said:
Massad: much sturdier than Jot. Seems to be more collectiable only as more people desire it now over the Jot, but that could change.
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WHAT!!!?!?!?!?
I have edc'd a Jot for over 2 years now and it's plenty sturdy. I'm going to guess that the liners are probably the same exact width on them both. This is a just a guess though.
 
Walking Man said:
WHAT!!!?!?!?!?
I have edc'd a Jot for over 2 years now and it's plenty sturdy. I'm going to guess that the liners are probably the same exact width on them both. This is a just a guess though.
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;) please reread my post it was subtle but I mentioned my Jot was used...(perhaps that is why I feel it less sturdy because who knows what the last owner did...I didn't add that part but that is why I mentioned the used part. It doesn't look abused, and in fact the blade looks unused but it is not mint and was at least pocket carried. It seems "loose" while my Ayoob is tight and feels heavier...so I conclude upon my knives that the Ayoob is sturdier.)
Also is should go without saying that your example may have been better cared for than mine, I don't know. All I can offer is my opinion based on my knives. :)

Also I'm curious, I know you have the Jot but do you also have the Ayoob to compare?
 
smcfalls13 said:
And for those who still prefer to carry the Gunting in a pocket, there is a "sheath" that actally fits in ones pocket, and protects the pocket lining from being destroyed by the horns and ramp of the Gunting. The sheaths are the cheapest part of carrying the Gunting;)

All bias aside, the Lil' Temp is the best overall out of that selection.
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:eek: Waaa? Wow considering the source that is a big acknowledgment. ;)
 
zenheretic said:
If I am not mistaken, SMC loves, I mean absolutely loves his Guntings....;) But I could have mistaken him for someone else. :D
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Yes. I do love my Guntings :D

But in all honesty I had to grudgingly;) admit that the Lil' Temp is a better overall knife, as the Gunting is a little too specialized for general cutting.
 
"C40 Jot Singh Khalsa,
C36 military,
C59 Shabaria,
C60 Massad Ayoob,
C68 Gunting,
C63 Chinook II,
C69 lil'temperance,
C81 para military, "

I'l put my two cents in on a few of these.
C36 military,
One major flaw on mine was the blade had too much play. The liner lock would actually move a little when you used the knife. Front to back blade play and liner lock movment makes me rate this as a non-buy. Great design but I won't buy another until they make them lock up better.

C59 Shabaria,
I had one but never really used it. It is a stange design and feels like a stange design. The handle is too small and just doesn't feel good. Very well made and pretty however. It is a great knife to add to the collection but not a user IMHO.

C60 Massad Ayoob,
This is one of the best Spydercos ever made. The quality is super, the design looks stange but feels great unlike the Shabaria. I couls go on and on about this knife but instead I will just say that it is fast becomming my primary non-work EDC. It is slim so you don't know it is there but it is stong. It is one of the best made Spydercos I have seen. Worth every penny you will pay for one. With all the knives I can carry, the Ayoob is number one or two with the Al Mar Shike being the other. I have lots of knives to choose from but for a full sized do everything EDC the Shike and Ayoob are my two favs.

C81 para military,
Another great knife. Cuts with the best of them and it stong. Took me a while to get used to the compression lock but then it became easy. No real problems with this one but it is one of those knives that you either have to get used to.
 
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