Mad Dog Vs. Busse

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hopethisisnttaken

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There are so many claims out right now about the toughness, durability, whatever of just about ever tactical/survival/etc.. knife out there right now. I have seen many posting regarding Busse knives and feel that most people feel that these knives walk on water. I have not seen as much about Mad dog knives on this site or any. Does anyone here have a ATAK or one of their other large blade knives? Also I do understand that there is a big price difference between the two but is do MAD Dogs live up to most of their claims? ANd for that matter, do the Busses as well?
 
Back when I was lurking, oh about 6 months ago, Mad Dog was "the" topic. Few knives have undergone as much testing and scrutiny in the Forums as they have. Check out the threads contained in the archives from Blade Discussion Year 2. They're everythinig you asked for and more
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NOOOOOOO Not again
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Do a search for Mad Dog and yee shall be rewarded..........
http://www.tacticalforums.com/ Mad Dogs Forum.....Yep lots of good info but lots of hype also.

For my .002 worth Busse is much better than Mad Dog blades.

 
Is that an air raid siren I hear????

Duck and cover!

Somebody please sound the "all clear" when this is over with so that the rest of us can come out of our bomb shelters when this thread is finally done.



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I've handled both Busse and MD this year. The MD Mirage X and DSU series, the old A2 Busse Mean Street and Police Recruit, and the Busse Basic #3 and #5 of M/INFI. Kydex wise, they're pretty similar. The Mirage X was slim and could use a bit more checkering IMO. The DSU has a broader blade than some of the Busses with a decent grip. The grip is tricky since Busse uses micarta, resiprene C and for its' Police Recruit nothing at all.

 
Ok cool. Nakano, get the pocorn, Brian C, get the butter. We gonna have us another 300 post Mad Dog-Busse thread.
Seriously, use the search feature. There has been more written on this topic than any other.


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Just shoot the poor mad dog thread and put it out of our misery
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Somebody stepped in something I'm afraid. But then, the last couple of times someone innocently asked about MD, nobody wanted to fight. And the dog has stopped barking up the wrong tree, so maybe we should just leave him alone and he might go away peacefully
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Edit addition: a serious answer is that few knives made by knife makers who rely on exaggeration and hyperbole to sell their wares will stand up to all of the claims made for their performance. That said, both of these 'brands' are good. Is one worth much more? I dunno. You decide.

[This message has been edited by Paracelsus (edited 10-28-2000).]
 
Please excuse me while I strap on my steel pot, high boots (very), and cast iron shorts. I'll see you in a little bit when all hell breaks loose.....

(walking away softly to ready the gear... ) N2S

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BTW you may want to check in our magazine T0 THE POINT. The review published there-in created an enormous explosion last year.

[This message has been edited by not2sharp (edited 10-28-2000).]
 
Oh ****! Here we go again
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www.bladeforums.com/magazine/secure/jan/mdvsmission.shtml
www.bladeforums.com/magazine/trial/csvsbusse-1.html

Here is a direct comparison with Mad Dog -vs- Busse in a 7" test.
www.bladeforums.com/tests/index.html

Think this will have less than 50 posts?

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While I appreciate all the input, this had really not helped my situation at all. I guess what I am wondering, after all the tests and reviews and more testing and survival school intructors that abuse these knives, for overall use, do most people think that a Busse is a better knife? I agree with the Mad Dog philosphy that a knife should break rather then bend but I have yet to read
about any situation where the Busse did break. Everything I have read has said that Busse steel is more prone to bending??
I will probally get no satisfaction on this one but any input will help. Busse?
Mad Dog? TOPS?...etc..It was easier when it was a choice between a Ka-bar or a EK...
 
Hopethisisnttaken,

If you can forgive us we are somewhat tired of the subject. If you look back on the older posts you will see literally a dozen threads and more than 1000 posts on these knives.

The short of it was that the Busse seemed to out perform the Maddog product even though it is available at 1/3 the price and come complete with a better warranty. The Maddog knives tested may not have been representative. Although several were tested by our members there appears to be an unspecific number of defective copies that were inadvertantly placed into circulation by the original manufacturer. These defective copies have a defective heat treat which result in the blade chipping when stressed.

The defective knives can allegedly be identified by a small notch hidden under the permanently affixed handle. Then again there were conflicting reports that these notches have been found to exist in a significant number of knives. They may even be part of the normal manufacturing process.

Well that's it in a nutshell.

Enjoy the reading.

BTW, My personal take on things is that the primary requirement for a survival knife should be ruggedness. It should resist breaking to the fullest extent. A dull knife can be sharpened, but a broken knife is useless. If you think you will need to survive for an extended period then take along a small sharpening kit.



[This message has been edited by not2sharp (edited 10-29-2000).]
 
Originally posted by hopethisisnttaken:
While I appreciate all the input, this had really not helped my situation at all. I guess what I am wondering, after all the tests and reviews and more testing and survival school intructors that abuse these knives, for overall use, do most people think that a Busse is a better knife? I agree with the Mad Dog philosphy that a knife should break rather then bend but I have yet to read
about any situation where the Busse did break. Everything I have read has said that Busse steel is more prone to bending??
I will probally get no satisfaction on this one but any input will help. Busse?
Mad Dog? TOPS?...etc..It was easier when it was a choice between a Ka-bar or a EK...
Click to expand...

Get a Livesay, Rinaldi, Busse or Strider. Do Not waste your money on a Mad Dog.

 
Mad Dogs are by far and away, the best big knives ever made. I especially like the chrome.
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I'm not going to get into this. I don't own any knives by either Mad Dog or Busse. I have not used or tested either. I have held one or two of each. All I have to say is that Mad Dog has some of the best handles I have ever seen. They feel kind of rubbery and I could hardly believe it when I was told they were G-10. Very comfortable, grippy, couldn't imagine one slipping out of my hand or getting sore hands from using it. I wish more companies made their handles like that. I'll leave the flames and fights to those who care enough or know enough to get into the debate as to which company makes better knives.
Signing out

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Jason,

How does the Maddog handle compare to the Mission MPK handle?

The knives look very similar.

N2S
 
Not to steal Jason's thunder but not2sharp, the Mission MPK had a rather powdery feel to its' wide handle as did it's sheath which is made to be ambidexterous in draw and carry. MD has a more pronounced groove and guard. Both have broad blades but the MD felt better for a smaller hand IMO.
 
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