More low-tech how-to where-to -- wood/metal/leather

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Both
http://www.primitiveways.com/urban_resources.html
And
http://www.primitiveways.com/urban_resources2.html
"Supplies for the Urban Abo
For those of us who desire to learn and practice primitive skills, but live in an urban environment, sometimes finding materials can be a problem. Eight years of facing this problem has led to seeking creative alternatives to obtaining these materials........"

http://www.primitiveways.com/
How-to in the areas of:
RESOURCES CLASSES FIRE TOOLS MUSIC SKILLS PLANTS EVENTS URBAN GALLERY

I'm finding some good ones today.
 
I see no mention of manbeef.com fo those of us who want to prepare our own meat. Ewww...
:eek:

I'd finally have a use for my brother in-law.
 
You'll have to ask the "Ozzies" here for sure but isn't Abo a derogatory term in Australia? Not sure if it is all around, and I damn sure don't want to sound ultra-PC cause I'm not. Just wondered if it is or not...

Anyway,thanks for the link:)
 
you better watch out usin naghty words like abbo i have just armed some aboriginal gents with a hi ang khola.its in the same as nigger ect, not very nice i think we better leave that alone.so please no more posts on this subject thanks.regards ghorka:)
 
ghorka,

If DDean had known that I'm sure he wouldn't have posted it in the first place. and once you've told us that it is the same as the "N word", you don't need to ASK us to stop using it--we got that already.

Now whether or not we shouldn't discuss the matter further is up to whomever is interested in doing so.

You will learn after being here awhile that this forum is populated by open minded, honest, and considerate folks who do their damndest to not offend anyone.
 
HEY SEE ITS THE WA OOPS there goes my capitals again,
hey its the way you read things, what i meant was not for you not to use the word, i meant dont anyone else need to answer what abbo means,its a free world you can use what language you like.dont worry me, after all words are just that words ,its how they are used and the maeaning you put behind them.regards ghorka.

by the way if anyone out there is wonderin how i came up with the handle ghorka, its because i am often being told i spend all day gawking at all sorts a crap on the internet, in the library ,in books ect so i thought GAWKER = GHORKA.:) by the way what part of the world are you in MauiRob ??? is that part of the usa maine
 
Thanks again, ddean. You are posting a lot of neat stuff!

MauiRob is mostly right about the courtesy of the gentlemen and women of the forum. Except me. I don't contort myself too much to avoid offending people. Americans have a right to speak freely, although they do not have a right never to be offended. Some of us seem to think that we have a right to not be offended, and I hope that their view never becomes officially sanctioned.

I'm kind of like the Ferengi on Star Treck. I'm offended by women in clothing. So all of you that don't like to offend anyone better have your female relatives strip!

"Abo" is in fairly common usage in the US to mean of an aborigional nature. Although it is slang it is useful. I figure I'll use it when necessarry.

This reminds me of the ruckus caused when an educated civil servant used the word "niggardly." As I recall he lost his job over that because his PC bosses were not familiar with the dictionary.
 
Yep, sometimes it don't pay to have a good grasp vocabu-mu-lary, Howard.

"I was bolemic. (silence) You can read minds?!?!?!"--Zoolander

En Ferro Veritas,
Keith
 
I once used the word "fellow" to describe an African gent
on who(m) I was performing a medical test. He became very tense.
Which, significantly for me, made my job much more difficult.
It wasn't 'till later I realized that in his culture this was
a derogatory term. In the culture where I was raised it meant
the same as gent/friend/guy/or similar. Not prejudicial at all.
Had he said, "Thanks, you're a good fellow," as he left my lab,
I would have felt warm and complemented.

Just goes to show how small the world is becoming more every day;
that we find such culteral mixups. Especially in international,
multi-cultural internet forums such as these.

Very important for everyone to let us know if they're ever
offended by our conversation. Someone who fails to do so is
failing to live up to the (inserting my cultural bias here)
basic contract of human relationships.

"souls are liable to estrangement"

In American culture I'm pretty sure 'abo' is always used as a simple
contraction for aboriginal -- technologically descriptive without
prejudice. Guess someone should write the author and caution him
RE the implications.
 
i thought the correct terminology was african american. here in aus gents is slang for maggotts.on account of they look kinda like a certain part of the male anatomy.??
 
Originally posted by ghorka .....i thought the correct terminology was african american.
Let's see......

"Sandy, would you bring this African American a cup of water?"
or
"Sandy, would you bring this fellow a cup of water?"

I think 'fellow' is better.
The other sentence to me sounds prejudiced or otherwise insulting.

Originally posted by ghorka .....here in aus gents is slang for maggotts.
Just goes to show......

But then why did you say, "i have just armed some aboriginal gents with a hi ang khola"?

Frightening how easy it is to misunderstand someone with a slight
difference in cultural background.

I recall reading about one culture in which one who, after dinner,
pats their belly and sighs is giving great insult to the hostess.
In that culture it means something like, "Thanks for the good sex."
 
I guess about the only way to stay alive as you travel abroad is to say everything with a BIG smile:D

by the way what part of the world are you in MauiRob ??? is that part of the usa maine

Yep, I'm up in the NorthEast corner of the U.S.--just below New Brunswick and Nova Scotia Canada. Never been to Oz but I would really love to go someday. I'm one of the many here who play Didgeridoo(Yidaki) but I try to do so with the utmost respect for the Aboriginal culture who created the instrument tens of thousands of years ago. I also play native american flute with the same intent of respect.

Interesting aside---I just heard an interview on NPR(national Public radio) where a young Navajo woman said she doesn't call herself "native american" because her people were here long,long, before white men decided to call the land that. Made me think, and smile:) Its about like Aborigines in Australia calling themselves Australian I guess---not sure how they feel about the issue though.
 
exactly see even i forgot the gent= maggot,
like i said words are only words, its the meaning you put behind those words. another funny one was i went to england approx 12 years ago and was staying with one of my aunts, one day we were looking for something couldant find it and she turned to me and gave me a big smile and said,[OH WELL LETS GO AND HAVE A GOOD ROOT IN THE CUPBOARD UNDER THE STAIRS] ENGLISH MEANT LETS HAVE A GOOD LOOK,
AUSSIE SLANG SHE WAS SUGGESTIN WE GO AND HAVE AND HAVE SEX.
root=intercourse. bloody hell good job it was my aunty i might have made the wrong moves while under the stairs. he he;) :)
 
yeh iknow what you mean, the aboriginals dont like being called aboriginals or australians,they like to be called coories,its pretty interestin realy they are always complaining about land rights and how white australians came an took australia away from them by force.
they forget that when one aboriginal tribe wanted another tribes land cos it had better hunting and water ect, they would kill them and drive of the survivors. its a pity we should all just be australians and forget the past. another example of that is battle hastings 1066 in england the normans from france invaded england beat the saxons and took over britain.what where do you stop or start do the saxons get there land back ??? i dont think so .who did the saxons take the land from to begin with. oh god iam getting a headache.:rolleyes:
 
Australia's history with the native people there isn't much different than the Europeans history with us ndns.:(
Never has any ndn nation or tribe broken a treaty with the U.S. although the U.S. has broken every treaty they made with us ndns.
The U.S. Gubment has basically admitted they stole the Black Hills from the Sioux Nation and offered a multi Billion dollar settlement that's still in escrow for the Sioux.
The Sioux simply want the Black Hills back. Think they will ever get it?:rolleyes:

We will never forget nor should the native people of Australia.
 
We will never forget nor should the native people of Australia.

pretty much the same goes for the ndns yvsa i aggree the american gov broke just about every treaty, but the same realy applys to your ndns, they were always killing each other off an if they wanted land they took it or tried to , i seem to remember the sioux raiding into apache territory an leaving a trail of dead all the way back to there own piece of territory. as i said they should do the same there all americans,tndns should forget about it an get on with livin.
 
Originally posted by ghorka
We will never forget nor should the native people of Australia.

pretty much the same goes for the ndns yvsa i aggree the american gov broke just about every treaty, but the same realy applys to your ndns, they were always killing each other off an if they wanted land they took it or tried to , i seem to remember the sioux raiding into apache territory an leaving a trail of dead all the way back to there own piece of territory. as i said they should do the same there all americans,tndns should forget about it an get on with livin.

Ghorka I'm not going to argue or have much discussion with you as I know your kind and am sorry for them because they are pitiful indeed.
They are those who can never understand the pull of the land and no not of whence they come.

The bad wars started only when our peoples were uprooted from from their own homes by the invaders.
You are not one who can tell me of my own history as you only know what the ones who dominated all have written.
We have withstood sterilization and many other atrocities and weren't even considered as human until late in the last century. It was only in the 1960's in some states where laws were rescinded that allowed white and ndn to marry.
We are the only people who have to prove our own race in our own land.
As to our forgetting about it.
NO!!!!!!!That will never happen!!!!!!!

Our people are slowly gaining education and fighting from within.
I doubt you know of prejudice where you are thought of being lower than a dog. I do know of such prejudice and it came from those that believe as you.
We will live on as we have always lived, Free and Proud.
 
Ghorka I'm not going to argue or have much discussion with you as I know your kind and am sorry for them because they are pitiful indeed.
They are those who can never understand the pull of the land and no not of whence they come.

well thats taking things a bit for granted yvasa, i meant no offence,far from it i agreed with what you said about the usa gov breakin treaty after treaty ect,all i meant was get on with livin and try to forget the bad things and concentrate on the future. i also agree i am not a native of any country,and as such probably dont understand the pull of the land,i think i know what you mean though.and i hope all ndns get at least some of there most precious lands back,but honestly icant see it happenin to a great extent,the usa govt and any government only gives back what its forced to ,or what it no longer wants or values.and even then like before they the government,will always breack there word, and eventualy take back what was not theres to give in the first place.i honestly believe the only way for native peoples is to buy back what pieces of there land they can as a community.but sadly even then govs can compulsarily aquire land when and where they like if legislation permits. and if it dont they make new legislation to suit.so my friend i may not know truly what the land means to your peoples, but i do know the injustice of it all.sincere regards ken ie ghorka
 
well so muuch for free speech not getting you into trouble i have found you realy have to have a thick skin,or not care what people say to you ,or both, unfortunatly i am niether, i do care if i have hurt other peoples feelings and will be more carefull what i write from now on.but people tend to interpret things there own way when reading posts so i guess i cant win, peace to all.regards ghorka:( :)
 
yeh iknow what you mean, the aboriginals dont like being called aboriginals or australians,they like to be called coories,its pretty interestin realy they are always complaining about land rights and how white australians came an took australia away from them by force.

I don't think you do know what I mean at all. The story I told about the Navajo woman was supposed to convey how backward our (and other) society's thinking is about native peoples.

And you should really never tell anyone to "forget about it and move on" whose people have been so horribly wronged as the Indians have been. Your point that the Indians should not be so upset about the campaign of genocide waged against them, because tribes often fought amoung/between themselves is ridiculas! That's like saying Americans should "forget about" the 9/11 massacre because americans sometimes kill each other, or because we once had a civil war. Apples and oranges.

This whole "forget about it and move on" attitude sounds AWFULLY familiar to me...hmmmm. Who was it who last started up so much trouble with this EXACT sentiment???:rolleyes:
 
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