My own gluttony/stupidity - 113 FB

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Stainz

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This evil-bay purchase was on me. I thought a new 113 FB (That means 'Fixed Blade', right? Wrong!) shipped for just less than half MSRP was a great deal... it was! And - it was too good to be true for a reason. I never read the description - the dealer will get high marks, sad to say - this 'Gotcha!' is entirely on me. 'FB" means 'Factory Blemish' - he clearly states that - and what the typical factory blemish is, as well. Oops. Mine came razor sharp - with a hole between the brass handle rivets on one side - an easy patch (I have some similar Dymondwood I can turn to dust to be used as a filler.). Still, a new factory fresh good example would only be a few bucks more - and S/H. I deserve it - even the address should have gotten my attention - Post Falls, ID. Well, he won't be one of my 'favorite' sellers.

Learn from my experience - carefully read the description lest you get just what you ordered!

Stainz
 
Ah well, we all suffer from speed, greed and reading comprehension every once in a while.

Most of us don't have ANY kind of a 113 yet, so it ain't all bad.

:)
 
Stainz ...those FB knives are great users...and they still carry the Buck lifetime warranty IIRC.
and if you can do a little DIY on it doesn't that kind of help "make it your's" so to speak.
I find I kind of bond with a knife when I do a little work on it. :)
 
IIRC, 113 FB's were selling at the factory store for about 1/2 of MSRP, maybe a little less. It may have been bought at one of the factory sales where everything in the store is 50% off.
 
Stainz said:
This evil-bay purchase was on me. I thought a new 113 FB (That means 'Fixed Blade', right? Wrong!) shipped for just less than half MSRP was a great deal... it was! And - it was too good to be true for a reason. I never read the description - the dealer will get high marks, sad to say - this 'Gotcha!' is entirely on me. 'FB" means 'Factory Blemish' - he clearly states that - and what the typical factory blemish is, as well. Oops. Mine came razor sharp - with a hole between the brass handle rivets on one side - an easy patch (I have some similar Dymondwood I can turn to dust to be used as a filler.). Still, a new factory fresh good example would only be a few bucks more - and S/H. I deserve it - even the address should have gotten my attention - Post Falls, ID. Well, he won't be one of my 'favorite' sellers.Learn from my experience - carefully read the description lest you get just what you ordered!

Stainz
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:D Too bad, because that guy is a great seller and is on my favorites list. I've bought more than a few knives from him and his descriptions are always dead on, so anyone who is dissapointed really has only themselves to blame. He does everything short of sending it to you to check out before buying. ;)
 
Buying anything anywhere sight unseen is always a risk. I've gotten some real (I think, at least) bargains on E Bay and other places like it on the internet, but I've also gotten a few pieces of absolute junk. So far, the bargains have greatly outnumbered the junk, but it's still a crap shoot, every time you bid.
 
Plumberdv said:
:D Too bad, because that guy is a great seller and is on my favorites list. I've bought more than a few knives from him and his descriptions are always dead on, so anyone who is dissapointed really has only themselves to blame. He does everything short of sending it to you to check out before buying. ;)
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+1 :thumbup: he brings those factory specials to us folks who aren't lucky enough to get them otherwise and charges IMHO reasonable prices for this .
 
sitflyer said:
+1 :thumbup: he brings those factory specials to us folks who aren't lucky enough to get them otherwise and charges IMHO reasonable prices for this .
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Exactly! That seller gives the best descriptions and has the best and clearest pictures of nearly any seller on there. He goes out of his way to SHOW and DESCRIBE any defects or blems on the knives, so I've never felt it was a crap shoot buying from him.
 
Yes, and the seller may walk on water, too.......from the sound of all the praises here (do you guys get discounts for promoting him?).

But, anyway.........did his photo show this?

...with a hole between the brass handle rivets on one side...
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So his photo didn't show the blemish that was much worse than his stated:

The blemish is on the brass bolster or handle, where there is an irregularity such as a slight gap between the bolster and the wood, or a slight irregularity on the bolster.
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No mention of holes in the slab. NO picture of hole in the slab.

So I'd have to say the the seller (however worshiped on bended knee most of the time) has, in this case, neglected to either mention in the description or show in a photo......a hole in the slab "between the brass handle rivets on one side."

That's not acceptable.

So let's place the blame where it properly rests......on the seller. "Item Not as Described."

No blame to buyer on this one.

I'd send it back and have him send me one with the minor blemish he promised.......not something that will take a lot of my time to fix.

;)
 
I checked out that auction or at least the one I think it was and see that the seller sold 20 of them so, I don't think it he could reasonably be expected to photograph and show each and every blemish on twenty knives in a single listing. I do see on other listings for single knives that he does take good closeups of the blemishes. Such as the following:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-BUCK-11...615?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2a12c42fcf

http://cgi.ebay.com/BUCK-CUSTOM-118...945?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2a12c42949

http://cgi.ebay.com/BUCK-105-PATHFI...767?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item2a1291e94f


And no, I don't have any connection at all to the seller in question.
 
Anytime you have a hole in the slab that shouldn't be there........

You better show it or tell about it in the description or you are guilty of......

"Item Not as Described."

And, of course, you can't talk about minor blemishes that the item MIGHT have and forget to mention that hole in the slab.

:D

If the seller is selling so much stuff that he cannot correctly take pics and write accurate descriptions--that's his problem and he better learn to deal with it.

That said, I have a feeling the seller would apologize and try to make it right if notified. A flagrant mistake like that is at least worth a substantial refund on the price.
 
Uuuuh... I didn't see the auction Stainz bought from but he clearly said in his post that the seller clearly stated that the knife was factory blemish and what a typical factory blemish was.

I'm not really sure where the accusations of "item not as described" are coming from with this third party uninvolved person but the buyer himself said it was his own fault for not reading the description... how can the seller be blamed for that?

I've never bought from the seller and do not know the buyer... but by using my READING skills of this thread I think the wild accusations are a little uncalled for.
 
The accusations are entirely accurate, let's not get confused about that.

The picture didn't show the hole.....the description didn't mention the hole.

The factually inaccurate claim was:

....the blemish is on the brass bolster or handle, where there is an irregularity such as a slight gap between the bolster and the wood, or a slight irregularity on the bolster.
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The seller was at fault, so it might be wise to quit promoting him and making excuses for him.

This is not the place to promote our buddies e-Bay sales and certainly not encourage sloppy listings like this one.
 
It's very rational to assume that the seller didn't get 100% positive feedbacks over the last year by selling "Items not as described". Oh, I know that he also has five neutrals during that period but if you check them out, four should have been positives because the buyers were happy. The fifth was bogus and the seller got what was advertised.
 
We've been discussing this auction, not his history.

And in this auction he failed to provide accurate pictures of the knife and failed to provide an accurate description of the knife.

He talked vaguely about minor blemishes and never mentioned or pictured the hole in the middle of the slab.

That means "Item Not as Described."

There's no excuse for it.
 
Here's the photo:
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If you look real close, you can just make out 2 tiny holes right behind the rear rivet. These could have been (and probably were) caused by drilling the hole. Anyone that isn't looking for them might miss them. I personally don't think it detracts from the knife.
 
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