Need a camp axe- what's good and what's not?

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I really don't need a machete or even an RTAK for my needs around the camp site. Just firewood/kindling and cutting poles stuff. Been using an old riggin' axe for years but want something cooler. The Gerber camp axe is what I have my eye on but would like some feedback and maybe some other choices. Thanks

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There are many good hachets around. They are just about interchangeable. Just find one that feels good to you,
 
Nice axes are some of the Hudson Bay models with heads up to 3lbs and 28in handles, and for something lighter a 28in 2 1/4 lb single bit 'boy's ax' like my well used and liked Collins. It was about $15 a few years back but I've noticed that the newer models from most makers look like cavemen finished them. For a nice looking hatchet the Vaughn builder's hatchet can be had for often less than $30, and being a 28oz model with a longer handle it works better than the typical 1 1/4 lb hunter's hatchets. Hatchets that I've gotten some good abuse out of are some $6 Chinese models sold under the Cummins name, with ugly yellow and blue fiberglass handles and what seems to be a 1 3/4 lb or so head. I keep one in each car and use them for rough work around the house, like chopping root balls of larger plants out of rocky soil, chipping ice, etc. Sears carries some decent looking made in the US hatchets, I've seen some nice looking Plumb, Collins, and other axes in older hardware stores where it looks like inventory doesn't move as quick as at the larger chains.

I guess one is getting when they feel like they should have bought two of something as mundane as an ax, because 'they don't make'em like they use to' :^)
 
Has anyone tried using one of the Cold Steel tomahawks around the camp? They look good but are they up to the job any better than a 7-10" knife in 1/4" steel? (do I need one?)

Iain, Manchester England

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The Gerbers are nice and lightweight. I put the smallest in my backpack. If the weight isn't a problem, Estwing hatchets and axes are very good and elegant with their stacked leather handle. You can get them at Home Depot.
 
What about that new belt axe that just came out? I forget who makes it but it is supposed to be 440C and from the reviews I have read, pretty kick A$$.
I think it was in the last Blade or Tactical Knives.

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I'm surprised no-one has suggested this yet, but have you considered using a khukuri? They chop very well. I'd rate them _much_ better than a hatchet, and are more versatile as well, and IMO are very cool. I'm partial to the Himalayan Imports varieties.

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Thanks for the info(web page) and wide variety of choices and ideas. I particularly like the one about checking out the older hardware stores. Duh! Why did't I think of that. I'm headed out right now to see what I can find, and if I find one I like I WILL buy two.If I can't find anything locally I will order a Gerber. The belt axe in the magazine, if it's the one I saw was to small and pricey. Khukuris have crossed my mind, but wanted to stay away form a bigger bladed knife. The biggest one I have now is 8in. and feel thats enough.(is there something wrong with me?) An RTAK is cool and would do the job and then some, but isn't there a 2-3 month wait? And the money-always the money.

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I have a couple of HI blades that I need to put handles on, and from looking at them I'll guess the reason they are so durable for chopping is that the edge profiles are similar to some of my hatchets. As far as chopping goes if edge profiles are similar look at weight x distance to get an estimate on performance. The primary shortcoming and yet perceived benefit of the common 1 1/4 hunter's hatchets is the short length of the handle, something that some of the khukuris overcome with typically a bit more weight as the weight is distributed along the length of the blade. Consider a hammer made of a length of steel bar versus the more common smaller head at the end of light handle. By using a hatchet with longer handle one gains a lot of performance, which is probably why the hawks and the builder's hatchets are popular. By putting 2 1/4 lbs to 3lbs at 28 inches as is done with the ligher axes one gains a lot of peformance, and is why axes have evolved into their current shapes and not like swords. The khukuris are great for use as one edged tool, which is why I wanted some, but I won't be giving away my axes and hatchets.
 
Ummm... why wouldn't a Stanley or Estwing (sp?) from Lowe's work?

Oops. My apologies to Jeff Clark. Didn't completely read his post until after I posted the above....

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"M"-I looked at the Uluchet-to hard to spel and pronounce. Haven't backpacked in years so I can go a little bigger, interesting though. I went looking at six places today. Hardware stores, farm/ranch and Home Depot, etc. All of them carried the Estwing sportsman axe and some piece of junk that the paint came of on your hands while you were holding it. The Estwing was a nice surprise, good size/balance. One piece design would be industructable to most people. The Great Neck axe at $6 seemed like a pretty good beater for around ruff stuff, rocks and high voltage electrical wires!? On top of these two I'm still wanting the Gerber camp axe. Man, this is going to be just like collecting knives, isn't it? What have I gotten myself into....

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Scarman is talking about the firestone belt ax. It is made of 440c with some special laminated handle. you see what it looks like in the december Survival guide. Check it out..it looks really great. I think it costs something over a 100 bucks.
 
Rick Fowler makes a beautiful camp ax. A pricey custom but way kewl. Don't know if he's on the web, though. Also I think Greco makes one too.
 
Thanks for the Marbles belt axe suggestion. I've been wanting to get something from them and have thought about a Trailmaker as agood example of their product. This might be better and close to my $50 limit for an axe.

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Consider a kukuri

I tossed my camp ax years ago in favor of a kukuri...does everything my Estwing did, but better.
 
Super
The kukri is worth taking a look at(beware of the cheaper ones). But, it really comes down to how you use your ax while camping. The list of suggestions mentioned thus far covers everything from a full size 3lb ax to the diminuative Gerber hunters/hikers model. Tell what tasks you plan to accomplish (e.g. cut kindling & pound tent stakes, or, cut down 24-30" trees & build a log cabin, etc.)and well focus the recommendations a little.
 
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