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P Sebenzas Are Just Not Collectible!

Discussion in 'Chris Reeve Knives' started by bvo85, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. bvo85

    bvo85 Gold Member Gold Member

    297
    Apr 27, 2017
    There's far too many P-Sebenzas out there for them to have any collectible value! Chris Reeve Knives said it themselves! :p

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  2. red mag

    red mag

    Apr 12, 1999
    So that's your chance to own a classic for little! ;)
     
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  3. DelialFallen

    DelialFallen

    14
    Oct 2, 2017
    I hope to get my hands on one eventually. The price is a bit steep for me currently.
     
  4. betzner

    betzner Home To Morro Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    With all due respect, you apparently know little about collecting. Makers have, forever, been wrong about such things as secondary market pricing, aftermarket availability, etc. And I really must laugh when you use a 25 year old box stuffer to make a point that has been invalid for over two decades, LOL .
     
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  5. Thin-Slice

    Thin-Slice Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 4, 2016
    Don't know how many P Sebenzas are out there but after 20+ years I am sure not all survived and the fact that they do not have a pocket clip is desired by many.

    Collectible is a relative term. Additionally, when an item (regardless of what it is) is discontinued it sort off becomes collectible automatically since there is a limited quantity.
     
  6. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Chris also thought the box was something buyers would just throw away.
     
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  7. pwrdbycotn

    pwrdbycotn Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    I think he was making that point, and that his post was actually sarcastic. He was pointing out that it's funny that CRK thought they would have little to no collectible value, when in fact they do. I know that recent sales of mint condition P's have been around the $800 mark, with numbered P's having a slightly higher value. That's quite a leap in price compared to what they sold for new, although I'm not 100% sure where it would fall if inflation was accounted for. I had P57 and kind of regret selling it. It was one of the first ones made that had a clip, and it was a lefty.
     
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  8. betzner

    betzner Home To Morro Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    I tried to figure out, before I posted, whether he was ill informed or, as you say, being sarcastic. I thought the chances were more toward sarcasm, but figured it needed some kind of response in case he really felt his stated case.

    Right now, knife values are screwy in most categories, ie, a price could go one way or the other. Time will get them back on track and give us more solid ground, i think - I hope.
     
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  9. mt666tm

    mt666tm Gold Member Gold Member

    265
    Nov 20, 2012
    I throw the box away for knives that I know are keepers. I don't need more junk in my garage.

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  10. betzner

    betzner Home To Morro Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    As I recall when I collected CRKs years and years ago, if a customer at a show just wanted the knife, Anne kept the box to re-use, to save money. She mentioned this once over the phone, or he did, not sure I recall which, but I usually spoke to Anne.
     
  11. betzner

    betzner Home To Morro Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    Definitive Info:

    "Additional info regarding "P" Sebenzas
    Unfortunately, we have no good records of Sebenza numbers – we never thought for a moment any one would be interested so many years later!! Only the Original Sebenzas were marked with P – Larges introduced in 1991 and Smalls introduced in 1993. We honestly have no record of how many Large “P” Sebenzas we made – we think we did them for about 2 and a half years. We numbered up to 121 for the Small “P” Sebenzas and I am not sure we did any marked with just “P” and no serial number. I think we stopped marking the “P” around mid 1994!..... "P" Stands for Production Sebenza, Not Prototype Sebenza ...On Behalf of CRK....Thanks Anne !"
     
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  12. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    The last one like this that I saw sell fetch $2k, and it has no papers.

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  13. pwrdbycotn

    pwrdbycotn Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    Ok, you caught me, I didn't mention decorated, numbered P's.
    You always gotta bust my chops!
     
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  14. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    You'd be disappointed if I didn't! :D :D :D
     
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  15. pwrdbycotn

    pwrdbycotn Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    This is true!
     
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  16. laizhekezhui

    laizhekezhui

    151
    Apr 2, 2012
    P Sebenza is the minimalist Sebenza, no clip, with simple shape and tough lines, no more no less, that's why P Sebenza is my favorite production Sebenza. They numbered around 300 pieces of P Sebenzas, the words on the paper said by CRK in 1993, now is 2017.

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  17. red mag

    red mag

    Apr 12, 1999
    So beautiful!!!
     
  18. RyanRaben

    RyanRaben Gold Member Gold Member

    214
    Oct 10, 2014
    If anyone has a P Sebenza they feel is not collectible... please contact me. ;-)
     
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  19. gusnuts

    gusnuts Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 7, 2015
    I have been collecting CRKs for 5 years now and I've only come across a handful of P Sebenzas for sale anywhere. Most larges have been in the $650-$1200 range unless it was a heavy user. The small P's I have seen have been a little less expensive although I see less smalls come up for sale I guess because the large had a couple years head start and there are more of them.
     
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  20. betzner

    betzner Home To Morro Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    As an added note, I was an early collector of Sebbies so my name is scattered around here and there and I still receive heads ups on interesting pieces. I'm sure I'm not the onlly one who was contacted about a month ago on Sebenza H13, asking price of around $3500. I kinda thought that as about a grand too heavy.
     
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