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Recommendation? Please Help Me Identify These Knives

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Tenn Josh, Sep 15, 2018.

  1. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018

    I recently purchased these 2 knives at auction. I have looked on the internet for well over an hour, as well as my wife, trying to find some information about these 2 knives.

    The Blue Knife is a 3 Blade Kentucky Rifle(1* side of big blade) that has Louisville Kentucky (on the reverse side 2* of Big Blade.) It also has a Circle on the Small Blade with B.S.C 12 China on it. It has a Blue Perilous handle with 3 Rivets holding it together and a Rifle Logo. Nothing on the reverse side of the handle except the Rivets also.

    The Orange Knife is a 2 Blade Whitetail Cutlery USA "The Tail" Thysse N Krupp Pakistan Knife. It has an Orange Bone handle with 3 golden rivets holding it together. That's about all I know on the Orange Knife.

    I seen a post from 2009 on BladeForums earlier and it was talking about Premier, Collectors, Etching, Engraving, and some other stuff on the Blue Knife in particular. The Premier 1-25 was said to be $2,995.99 on the Topic Post from a Knife Collection Price Guide.

    Any advice will be greatly appreciated to the farthest extent considering these 2 knives have me completely stumped.

    Sorry I went into deep detail with the knives, but I figured better just do it now instead of replying a lot and making this a Topic with 1,000 posts. I will reply within the hour if commented on.

    Thanks for you time and patience.
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2018
  2. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Pics will help a lot. You will need to use Imgur or something like it to post the pictures.
  3. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018
    I can't just upload a pic to it? It says I have to use an URL and I havent put them on any site yet.

    You said ImgUr. I'm taking that as an app or website?
  4. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018
    I used Google Photo's. The link is at the top of the Original post. Sorry for the inconvenience.
  5. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018
  6. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    There are a number of inexpensive "brands" made in China and elsewhere these days that are made in traditional patterns and given traditional American names. The knives you have purchased fall into that category. Some are well made, some less so. If you examine the knives and they seem functional, then go ahead and use them. They aren't collectors items by any means.
    "Krupp" is a steel manufacturer. The implication is that the knife contains German steel. Whether it actually does or not is open to question.
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  7. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018
    Where did you find that information at?
  8. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    It’s commonly known. He didn’t have to find it anywhere. It was already within his head. He just pulled up the file.
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  9. tltt


    May 1, 2008
    http://www.frostcutlery.com/default.aspx?listtype=brand&listvalue=whitetail+cutlery .

    Whitetail Cutlery is a Frost brand. Ask them, and they can probably tell you about it.

    http://www.kyroyalrangers.org/spare_page.htm .

    Those guys were offering "Kentucky Rifle" knives just a few years ago, maybe ask them their source. They look like the are made in the same factory that makes SMKW's Rough Rider knives based on style and finish work.

    The long rifle shield concept dates back to A G Russell, who used it on a nice 1970's Schrade limited edition.
  10. Tenn Josh

    Tenn Josh

    Sep 15, 2018
    So the one that I have, just because it's made in China, is a replica? I've got $20 in them both. I'm just looking for a price guide on them.
  11. HP2114B


    Feb 25, 2018
    It's not a replica, just a cheap Chinese slipjoint that vaguely resembles a Schrade CM-1. Here's what a CM-1 looks like:


    Non-members aren't allowed to request valuations, but at $20 I'd say you overpaid.
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  12. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    Lapedog is correct. I am the co-moderator of the Traditional Forum here on BF. I've been carrying and using traditional knives for almost 60 years. Knowing traditional knives is a hobby for me.

    One is made in China. The other is made in Pakistan. And yes, that means they are not collectible.

    $10 apiece is roughly the going rate for knives of this genera as new knives, although those don't look new to me.

    Like I said, you may have a couple of good users, or maybe not. But they aren't particularly collectible or valuable no matter what.

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