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Just when you thought it was safe to buy that commy chink knife from Wal Mart San. Here I go again. Its just that it makes the final point on what really caused Schrades demise. If anyone still remembers it. This has been quite a journey however when I make a statment that I feel is true I tend to stick with it. Or admit I was wrong.
If you recall back when this happened I made several allegations. One regarded the Schrade Collection well recently that point was settled and left to the reader as to what happened. It took some chiding but I give credit to Mr Parker who answered my concerns and I feel acknowledged that they had considered saving the collection and in fact doing a book on it however changed there minds and he says never told or intimated to anyone that keeping it for history was there intention. Ok I will not go into it again if you can read the thread. You decide.
Another point was Mr Taylor accquiring the Schrade rights at the auction I had said that I felt he had backing from foreign sources. Recently strangly enough I was in contact with Mr Taylor both of these people within a week of each other. A coincidence ??? In any event I must say Mr Taylor was an absolute gentleman. In fact he answered many questions that he did not have to. He maintains that he and he alone financed the Schrade buy. He explained points that frankly I had been unaware of. I thank him and give him credit. At the end of our conversation I said to him that I guess my only problem was dealing with a government which has sworn our extinction. He pointed out that no one could compete with them Taiwon is much more expensive, Japan is higher than us. ( Of course a big part of that cost is having enough political prisoners to work for a bowl of rice. My comment not his) He also stated that he has been there ( China) and felt better treated than in other asian countrys. People were friendlier. He also asked some of his associates about the communist government and the intimation was that at this point it was all about money. In other words the enemy was being in a subtle way seduced by capitalism.
I give Mr Taylor credit. He certainly did not have to offer me any explanation his reason for contacting me was in regard to the Ellenville exhibit that he had read about on the internet. Now while I do give credit it remains a fact that when he managed to secure the Schrade IP he knew where his manufacturing market would be and so did the chinese.
Now I make these points for a reason. I have claimed from the beginning that his entire scenario was orchestrated by a foreign government. That saying it was simply the fault of bad managment was what these forces wanted to be accepted as the main reason for the bankrupcy, while a much deeper cause and effect was put into place. The point here being China knew if Schrade goes under they own the market.
In order to effect this Schrade had upon large orders fram Walmart remachined and to compete starting putting out lower lines of product from China ( mostly assembled here ). I agree it turned out to be a bad decision ( bad managment) however without knowing what was really happening not a totally illogical one. They were in debt. How ever the bank that they dealt with had always backed any other moves with extra time. They had 1 million knives sold at the time they were shut down. They had all of the product to make them most of them were just waiting to be shipped and some only had to be paid for by the customer. A new bank buys the smaller bank in one of those giant type moves that you read about. The new bank comes in looks at Schrade and says you are insolvent and your note is due. Schrade says hey give us a little time here are the orders to pay you. Nope no good we hold the note now you are out. Why would a bank do that. Now they have an auction to liquidate the holdings. The collection is supposed to be auctioned off. It wasent ( reason given it would take to long to do it piece by piece ) .
Now you would think that since the individual sale would have brought in 10 or 20 or more times the amount ( who knows count up what Smokey has sold on ebay and to private dealers) that perhapes the new bank since it was so worried about money might have taken an extra day or two for the couple of million. No instead they sold to Smokey who I was told was going to keep it intact and in fact admit to thinking of doing just that but, didn't tell anyone they would, OK Yea Right. Smokey who upon selling the collection will use this revenue for what you may ask. Guess what to make Chinese Knives. So even thought the bank writes up a bankrupcy loss ( and writes it off ). It is all coming back to them any way. This was the same reason lots of materials and product were sold in giant lots rather than realistic sized ones because only a large outfit like smokey could store it. That is why they bought it for pennies. Hell the gooks still get to assemble the stuff, they havent lost a thing. Pretty smart AHHHH SOOO.
I have been told over and over that there is no complicity, no communist financial plot, that these are our business partners in a global economy no manipulation here hell it is as straight a game as seven card stud at the Mirage. Well in this case I have said from the beginning this whole line of bull was a mirage. However as usual I have been it seems tilting at the windmill all alone. I am attaching an article from todays paper which is the reason I am reopening this subject. From the beginning I have said that I realized there was nothing I could do but dammit I just wanted it known that not everyone was buying the crap. Hell you can bend me over but after you do don't tell me you were giving me a physical.
Here are a few quotes "Anger is growing in Congress over the trade and currency matter". "Our industrial base is bleeding away in upstate NY" One of the major factors is China's currency manipulation. Saying China dosen't manipulate currency is saying the sky is not blue. Released figures show upstate NY had lost 104,000 manufacturing jobs over the last 5 years which Sen Schumer blamed directly on China's currency policy. ( currency policys does what I have been saying sound like a currency policy??? currency, banks any similaritys ???). Sen Schumers calculations Orange county 3000 manufacturing jobs Jan 2001 to Jan 2006, 20 percent decline. ULSTER County ie SCHRADE 2,100 33 percent decline.
It should be noted this addresses market level prices however I guess that since obviously these people have our well being at heart they would have never been involved with the kind of conspiracy or actions I have been describing. Once again I am submitting this not to start this whole futile issue over but to make the point I stated from the beginning. LT PS if you cannot read it the article was in the NY Middletown record to day March 16. If someone can post a link I would appreciate it. If I spent more time learning how to use this computer instead of complaining about the state of the world I would be able to do it myself.
If you recall back when this happened I made several allegations. One regarded the Schrade Collection well recently that point was settled and left to the reader as to what happened. It took some chiding but I give credit to Mr Parker who answered my concerns and I feel acknowledged that they had considered saving the collection and in fact doing a book on it however changed there minds and he says never told or intimated to anyone that keeping it for history was there intention. Ok I will not go into it again if you can read the thread. You decide.
Another point was Mr Taylor accquiring the Schrade rights at the auction I had said that I felt he had backing from foreign sources. Recently strangly enough I was in contact with Mr Taylor both of these people within a week of each other. A coincidence ??? In any event I must say Mr Taylor was an absolute gentleman. In fact he answered many questions that he did not have to. He maintains that he and he alone financed the Schrade buy. He explained points that frankly I had been unaware of. I thank him and give him credit. At the end of our conversation I said to him that I guess my only problem was dealing with a government which has sworn our extinction. He pointed out that no one could compete with them Taiwon is much more expensive, Japan is higher than us. ( Of course a big part of that cost is having enough political prisoners to work for a bowl of rice. My comment not his) He also stated that he has been there ( China) and felt better treated than in other asian countrys. People were friendlier. He also asked some of his associates about the communist government and the intimation was that at this point it was all about money. In other words the enemy was being in a subtle way seduced by capitalism.
I give Mr Taylor credit. He certainly did not have to offer me any explanation his reason for contacting me was in regard to the Ellenville exhibit that he had read about on the internet. Now while I do give credit it remains a fact that when he managed to secure the Schrade IP he knew where his manufacturing market would be and so did the chinese.
Now I make these points for a reason. I have claimed from the beginning that his entire scenario was orchestrated by a foreign government. That saying it was simply the fault of bad managment was what these forces wanted to be accepted as the main reason for the bankrupcy, while a much deeper cause and effect was put into place. The point here being China knew if Schrade goes under they own the market.
In order to effect this Schrade had upon large orders fram Walmart remachined and to compete starting putting out lower lines of product from China ( mostly assembled here ). I agree it turned out to be a bad decision ( bad managment) however without knowing what was really happening not a totally illogical one. They were in debt. How ever the bank that they dealt with had always backed any other moves with extra time. They had 1 million knives sold at the time they were shut down. They had all of the product to make them most of them were just waiting to be shipped and some only had to be paid for by the customer. A new bank buys the smaller bank in one of those giant type moves that you read about. The new bank comes in looks at Schrade and says you are insolvent and your note is due. Schrade says hey give us a little time here are the orders to pay you. Nope no good we hold the note now you are out. Why would a bank do that. Now they have an auction to liquidate the holdings. The collection is supposed to be auctioned off. It wasent ( reason given it would take to long to do it piece by piece ) .
Now you would think that since the individual sale would have brought in 10 or 20 or more times the amount ( who knows count up what Smokey has sold on ebay and to private dealers) that perhapes the new bank since it was so worried about money might have taken an extra day or two for the couple of million. No instead they sold to Smokey who I was told was going to keep it intact and in fact admit to thinking of doing just that but, didn't tell anyone they would, OK Yea Right. Smokey who upon selling the collection will use this revenue for what you may ask. Guess what to make Chinese Knives. So even thought the bank writes up a bankrupcy loss ( and writes it off ). It is all coming back to them any way. This was the same reason lots of materials and product were sold in giant lots rather than realistic sized ones because only a large outfit like smokey could store it. That is why they bought it for pennies. Hell the gooks still get to assemble the stuff, they havent lost a thing. Pretty smart AHHHH SOOO.
I have been told over and over that there is no complicity, no communist financial plot, that these are our business partners in a global economy no manipulation here hell it is as straight a game as seven card stud at the Mirage. Well in this case I have said from the beginning this whole line of bull was a mirage. However as usual I have been it seems tilting at the windmill all alone. I am attaching an article from todays paper which is the reason I am reopening this subject. From the beginning I have said that I realized there was nothing I could do but dammit I just wanted it known that not everyone was buying the crap. Hell you can bend me over but after you do don't tell me you were giving me a physical.
Here are a few quotes "Anger is growing in Congress over the trade and currency matter". "Our industrial base is bleeding away in upstate NY" One of the major factors is China's currency manipulation. Saying China dosen't manipulate currency is saying the sky is not blue. Released figures show upstate NY had lost 104,000 manufacturing jobs over the last 5 years which Sen Schumer blamed directly on China's currency policy. ( currency policys does what I have been saying sound like a currency policy??? currency, banks any similaritys ???). Sen Schumers calculations Orange county 3000 manufacturing jobs Jan 2001 to Jan 2006, 20 percent decline. ULSTER County ie SCHRADE 2,100 33 percent decline.
It should be noted this addresses market level prices however I guess that since obviously these people have our well being at heart they would have never been involved with the kind of conspiracy or actions I have been describing. Once again I am submitting this not to start this whole futile issue over but to make the point I stated from the beginning. LT PS if you cannot read it the article was in the NY Middletown record to day March 16. If someone can post a link I would appreciate it. If I spent more time learning how to use this computer instead of complaining about the state of the world I would be able to do it myself.
