Puukkos

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Cosmic Superchunk

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I just received 2 new puukkos (or should I say "puukkot") from the nice folks at Kellam in the mail today. I got my second Roselli R125 Carpenter model with a forged carbon steel blade (my wife claimed the 1st one) and a Marttiini M121 Lynx in stainless.

Here are what they look like from Kellam's site:

Janne Marttiini model M121 "Lynx"
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Heimo Roselli model R125 "Carpenter"
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I don't know, but there's something about these Finnish knives that have got me hooked. It all started with the basic M571 I got to compare to a Frosts Mora 4" model and now I find myself addicted. Now I await the arrival of a Lapp Puukko and a 7" Leuku. Anyone else have a love for these types of blades?
 
you 'betcha...

puukkos are my favorite fixed blade. decorative and useful, as well as the fact that i've carried one dangling from my belt for years in front of everyone from state troopers to mall security and noone really seemed to care.

my first one was the Helle Viking to use in my medieval reenactment group. then the Nying, Skarping.....and so forth. will have a custom someday.

Metis
 
To my left is a KJ Mora blade, to my right is the brass piece I'll be soldering onto the blade tomorrow! these knives are awesome cutters. Gorgeous too.
 
Originally posted by el cid
I just received 2 new puukkos (or should I say "puukkot")
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(Now I'm nasty, forgive me.:o :rolleyes:
But "receive one puukko, receive two puukkoa".
Or: "this puukko, these puukot".
Oh boy, Finnish isn't the easiest language on earth.
But, as said, I just couldn't resist. Maybe better to forget this.
Didn't want to tease anyone.:o)

I'm delighted every time I hear Finnish puukko is liked.

Nice to know Roselli is so well known in US too.
(If I remebmer right, there was an artice in Tactical Knives some time ago.)

Roselli Carpenter is my favourite as an outdoor puukko :)
 
Originally posted by tuhkis

(Now I'm nasty, forgive me.:o :rolleyes:
But "receive one puukko, receive two puukkoa".
Or: "this puukko, these puukot".
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So you're saying, puukkoa is the accusative plural, and puukkot is the nominative?
Is the accusative singular the same as the nominative?
How many cases are there in Finnish, anyway?
 
Johnniet,
Our language is indeed wery different compared to English (to most languages).
People that have lived here years bend still the words incorrectly...

We have 15 cases and in some cases 'vowel harmony'(translation???) doubles the number of forms - same case with different word may look somewaht different. And in some cases there just is many ways to say the same thing in same case e.g. following is plural genetive for axe: kirveitten, kirvesten, kirveiden.

Normally case for object is partitive. Accousative is generic name (in Finnish grammar) for all other forms that object may be in but partiivi. Generally singular accousative is like our singular genetive and plural is like our plural nominative.

Some excemples:
Haluatko puukon? = Do you want a puukko?
puukko is object and looks like genetive = accousative.
But I can say also
Himoitsetko puukkoa? = Do crave for a puukko?
puukko is again object but is in typical (singular) partitive case.
Himoitsetko puukkoja = Do you crave for puukkos?
puukko is again object but is in typical (plural) partitive case.
Sain kaksi puukkoa = I got two puukkos.
Objects case is now in singular partitive form (quite normal situation).
Sain puukon = I got a puukko.
puukko is object and looks like genetive = accousative.

We have rarely used cases like adessive e.g. I can say "puukotta olen alasti" = with out a puukko I am naked.

Of course plural may or may not look different than singular form and not allways in same way ;).

BTW Finnish was inspiration to JRR Tolkien when he created language (quenya) for his elves (for noldor).

(corrected names for cases)
 
Tommi, I didn't know that Finnish was the basis for Tolkien's Quenya language. Very fascinating indeed.:)

So the correct plural term for a puukko in Finnish depends on how it's used in a sentence, right?
 
Yeas. We don't have pronomines etc. everyhing is added to 'body word'. But body word flexes depending on vowel harmony and other reasons...

Tolkien read our national epic 'Kalevala' in Finnish. Tolkien liked Finnish (according to what I've heard - my brother was member in Finnish Tolkien society) because of its old-fashionedness.
 
Of the two models I recently got (Marttiini & Roselli), the Heimo Roselli Carpenter model is by far the better one, but I have another question. I have recently placed an order for a Lapp puukko with carbon steel by Iisakki Järvenpää. It's an inexpensive model (less than my Marttiini Lynx) with what appears to be a plain birch handle, but as far as comparing the overall quality, how do these compare to Marttiini and other Finnish puukkos?
 
Very nice looking little piece. Thanks for the link, Metis. Incidentally, I went out a bought some leather cord to wear my Marttiini Lynx model 121 around my neck.
 
Also a fan of the puukko...

Tried my hand at building a few - got the parts from www.harjusknives.com

Gary is a great guy and easy to deal with.

I'm currently working on a leuku and a Laplander. I'll post pics later.

BTW, that mini puukko neck knife is Great!

Dan
 
The Puukko is my favorite knife to collect and use. Very tough, very utilitarian in the field. The high single bevel grind is very easy to maintain in carbon steel.

The design is so simple yet…very elegant. Study a well-designed Puukko, pick it up and hold it and you discover it is really a very complex design.

My first Puukko came from the late Jim Matthis. It remains the centerpiece of my collection simply because it reminds me of him.

Here is a great site for all Puukko fans: http://www.brisa.fi/

You can spend hours on this site looking at designs from many nordic makers, learn how to make a Puukko, purchase all your materials or a finished knife. Dennis Holmbacka created and maintains the site. He is fantastic to deal with and is becoming an accomplished knife maker in his own right. He recently started forging his own blades.

Dennis made the knife in the included picture for me a couple years ago. The blade is by Johann but Dennis designed and created it.
 

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Brisa and harjusknives offer same things and have at least partly same pics. I guess that they are related somehow.
I've bought some things: a blade, handle materials, sheat materials.. form Birsa (Dennis) and service has been great.
 
Dennis (brisa) helped Gary (harjusknives) set up his website.

They offer basically the same products except that Gary's products ship from Texas.
 
RifRaf,

I too got my first puukko from JKM who is missed dearly. It was a Kankaanpaa which is a very nice, supremely sharp forged blade. I later picked up a Rugged Tommi (from Kellam) which I also like very much.

I thought you might appreciate a prototype that was made by the Nepali kamis of Himalayan Imports based upon one of the puukkos James Mattis sent over there to be copied.

The first pic is the Finnish Kankaanpaa and the second the prototype I was lucky enough to be given as a gift by Uncle Bill of HI after James' untimely death.

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I keep the prototype by my computer monitor so that it gets a lot of attention daily.

Puukkos are wonderful knives with a great tradition and history behind them.
 
Blues, great pics! I really love puukkos, their classic old world charm and utility is hard to beat. I'd love to get a KP Tommi next, but alas, the cash flow is low. I'll have to save up for one.
 
Thanks, Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, (El Cid's name if I recall correctly 32 years after graduating high school ;)).

The Rugged Tommi is a great puukko with a very nice sheath as well. You won't be disappointed.
 
Thanks Blues.

JKM was quite a guy. I talked with him on the phone and we conversed via e-mail but alas never met him in person before he passed.

I have one HI's JKM design Puukko's. It is an interesting blend of two cultures knife traditions.

I really appreciate seeing the prototype. You are a lucky man!
 
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