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Question/Feedback Benchmade 710 sbkd2 vs ZT 0452cf

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Thaibox1, May 17, 2018.

  1. Benchmade 710

    17 vote(s)
    43.6%
  2. Zero Tolerance 0452

    22 vote(s)
    56.4%
  1. Thaibox1

    Thaibox1

    6
    Dec 14, 2011
    Im torn, love both of these blades. Have an opportunity to pick one or the other, but not both. Which would you pick and why? Thanks
     
  2. b00n

    b00n Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 15, 2016
    ZT because I trust their QC more than BM's. I have a 0452 and I quite like it, feel like a modern stiletto to me in a way, long and sleek. You could also look into the BM Fact if you like long skinnier knives, just a thought (it'd be one of the BM's I'd consider.)
     
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  3. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey with special platinum powers Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    own both.

    normally id say the 710 as its been long ago discontinued. its one of the best knives benchmade ever made.....
    but....... i dislike partial serrated knives so in this case id pass on it.

    so the 0452.
     
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  4. Dadpool

    Dadpool Gold Member Gold Member

    May 18, 2015
    Lighter, stainless, no recurve, CF/Ti, amazing action -- 0452 all the way.

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  5. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    ZT 0452cf is a better knife. BM 710 may be considered only because it is discontinued.
     
  6. SpySmasher

    SpySmasher Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 1, 2016
    Same for me.
     
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  7. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey with special platinum powers Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    yeah 710s may be considered only because they have been discontinued.....:rolleyes:..not cause they are great knives 1526607915917539806327.jpg
    that aside.....

    so are the 0452s. think i have a couple of those too... 1526608338413311764806.jpg
     
  8. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    The OPs 710 is a D2 version (and forget about the partial serration which many people dont like). I have the exact kw 710 which is better than the base D2 version. Even between the kw m390 bm 710 and ZT 0452cf, the latter is at least as good or may be regarded better:
    - cf/ti scale/lockbar vs g10/steel liner (710),
    - perfect handle/blade balance vs the handle is on the heavy side (710), and
    - ease to achieve great smoothness/free dropping while with zero blade play vs often needed compromise between zero blade play and free dropping (710).

    Again BM 710 is an iconic folder which I love. But that does not make it better than ZT 0452cf IMO.
     
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  9. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey with special platinum powers Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    and you also said which is what i spoke about......" BM 710 may be considered only because it is discontinued."

    i disagreed and i believe its a great knife. thats a reason to consider it. not only because its discontinued. even if in d2.
     
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  10. lzeplin

    lzeplin Gold Member Gold Member

    335
    Apr 18, 2012
    I'm a big zt fan, I had a 452cf traded it to a buddy, then I bought the 452 ti blue and I've never carried it only took a few pics of it. I also have a black 710 that just came back from Benchmade with a brand new d2 blade installed. My dad carried it for years then sent it to the spa, and gifted it to me.
    So i'll never part with my 710. For a edc carry knife I think the 710 is way better. The 452 just seems awkward to me, like the blade is too long or the grip just isn't right. I'm not sure how to explain it, other than it feels like a knife if you really used you'd probably get cut up! Lol
     
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  11. anthonycastorena2014

    anthonycastorena2014 Gold Member Gold Member

    674
    Nov 27, 2014
    I just got the ZT0472 ti I really like it. I had the CF version a while back. Have it to the little sisters boyfriend.... he lost it. Anyways got the Ti version from TLE sharp with a fresh mirror edge on. Freaking awesome!
     
  12. ChazzyP

    ChazzyP Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Dec 27, 2014
    The 452 is in many ways a better knife, but I carry one of my 710s much more than the ZT. The blade steel on the ZT is stainless, easier to sharpen, and holds its edge better. Whether Ti/CF or all Ti, the handle material on the ZT can be considered superior as well.

    There's no question that Benchmade went through a few years of poor QC/F&F issues, though they've come out the other side of those strongly in the last couple which may include the manufacture of the 710 shortly before its discontinuation. For my part, I've owned over 30 BMKs and still have over 2 dozen and have not encountered any of the various quality issues so that so many others have.

    I own 3 710s, had one other, and bought one for my son as well. It is in my mind the quintessential BMK with the first-ever AXIS lock and classic design. I have no problem with D2 steel, though the M390 in the -1402 is hard to beat.

    If the choice was between a 452 and a 710 satin, either D2 or M390, I'd go with the 710, as it's just one of my go-to knives. Unfortunately, the OP has presented us with an SBK for his 710 choice, so my vote would have to go to the ZT. Still a great knife, but I'd keep an eye out for a satin, plain-edge 710 down the road.
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2018
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  13. kniferbro

    kniferbro

    Jan 22, 2011
    If we're actually talking about a "better knife" the 710 takes the cake easily. The geometry on the 0452 is horrendous. I like the knife a lot. but no getting around it. It has the same blade stock as most other ZT's with half the grind height.
     
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  14. whp

    whp

    Apr 26, 2009
    I much prefer a knife that be opened by thumb as well as by flipper. I generally avoid flipper only frame locks.
    My 710 with an m390 blade is a fine edc and carries much smaller than its size.
     
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  15. shinyedges

    shinyedges Every man's intelligence is a god Platinum Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    I've had 2 0452cfs and 2 0452ti variants. I have not had a 710 so I can't speak to it.

    I do like the 0452 very much.

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  16. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    I've had several 710s. Still have a 0452cf. Not ever getting rid of it. Smallest feeling big knife I own. If you like a big blade you should get a 452. The 710 feels heavier and does not have as much blade.
     
  17. bikerector

    bikerector Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 16, 2016
    I voted 710 because I prefer axis and thumbstuds over flippers and framelocks. I don't envy the decision you are trying to make, both are amazingly sexy to me.
     
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  18. sharkattacksw

    sharkattacksw

    458
    Aug 4, 2008
    I'd give the nod to the 0452. In my views, ZT's QC is vastly superior to that of BM's.
     
  19. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    You added a wave?
     
  20. shinyedges

    shinyedges Every man's intelligence is a god Platinum Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    Yes machined it from stainless and Tig welded on. Welds covered in jb weld.
     
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