Request comparison of Elishewitz Liner vs. Integral

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ELarson

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Can anyone give me a comparison of the actions of Allen Elishewitz's liner locks vs. his newer integrals. I've been bitten by the custom bug (much to my wife's chagrin) and I just can't get away from his website. On one hand the Mars with anodized overlays is calling my name, but the Integral Neo with the G10 wants me too. Any thoughts?



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E. Larson
ericlar@attglobal.net
 
I like the looks of the Neo, but the Cortex is really calling my name...

I hope to get an Bolster Lock Diablo soon, from Larry at Knifeart. I noticed that the bolster lock is not available from Allen directly, so I might as well go Monolock with the Cortex. It will be interesting to compare the two.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
I have a Diablo and I am pleased with it. The bolster lock is is a really nifty idea. I like the looks of double bolsters. Everything about the knife is smooth. I wish I had one of the liner locks so I could compare them.
 
ELarson-

Do you like blondes, brunettes or redheads? Just like Allen's knives, I like em' all! And I have several of them (Allen's knives, that is!).

The strength and quality of all of his designs is excellent and equally well executed. What it boils down to is what YOU personally want in terms of size, looks and feel.

Allen's product line is diverse in order to give you many choices. (Almost too many for the checkbook to tolerate.)

With any Elishewitz knife, you are not only getting quality, but great customer support. Allen and Valerie "bend over backwards" to insure your satisfaction.

You really can't go wrong with any of his knives.

Stay sharp!

Jim



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Jim O'Young
www.speed-techknives.com
Home of the Speed Tech "SYNERGY" (tm)
1999-2000 BLADE Magazine "Most Innovative American Design"

 
I love Allen's designs. He does an excellent job at combining function with ergonomics and aesthetics. His workmanship has always been good, but he's been steadily getting even stronger, and the aesthetic touches really make his knives stand out.

The only thing I've ever been unimpressed with is his liner locks in the past [ it was an accidental release of an Elishewitz liner lock that first started me investigating liner locks in general, as a matter of fact ]. Not that they were especially bad, but accidental-release-wise they were about average for custom makers in general -- and that's not so good. Don't know if he's improved the realiability of his liner locks or not, but at this point there's no reason at all to even chance it. You can get monolocks and bolster locks from him, so I strongly recommend going that route.

Joe
 
Thanks for all the input. With all I've read (never had the pleasure to handle one personnaly) I never doubted the quality of Allen's knives. The reason I asked was in reading his design goals for the Bolster Lock he stated he wasn't looking for a smoother actions, but a thinner knife and a more reliable one.

The only thing I know of the Diable is page on KnifeArt.com. Could any owners give a little more detail on the design, such as detailing (anodizing?), which clip design does it have, etc. I'm looking for quality daily carry that's not too bulky for the pocket.

Side note, as a recent member of the forum, the quality of the posts and information available here is a cut above anything else I've encountered on the web or in newsgroups. My thanks to all.



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E. Larson
ericlar@attglobal.net
 
What is the physical difference between the monolock and the bolster lock?

Monolock is to BM 750 / Sebenza as the bolster lock is to...?

Thanks. I'm just trying to get a grasp on this as I'm giddy as a little schoolgirl about any new locking systems.
 
I've only seen it in photo's, but the bolster lock has a section milled out for a scale, ala Janus & Diablo, and integral bolster is split just like an integral. The text on the Elishewitz website states:

"Bolster-Lock
1/8" thick titanium liner and lock with a section of the handle milled away. A handle material is replacing the removed titanium. This combines both a bolstered knife look and a monolock construction."

It really adds to the esthetics, though. The lines of the knife flow nicely with the handle slabs on both models. I was originally going to add a Benchmade 720, then decided to move up to a small Sebenza, but after several visits to the Elishewitz website I've decided to bite the bullet, save a little longer and get something I can drool over.

There was a line in a Trevanian novel that said (roughly) "One bite doesn't taste any 5". I guess I'll use that logic with five factory knives don't provide more pleasure that one custom...



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E. Larson
Edmonds, WA

 
I am quite excited today, as I talked to Larry at KnifeArt today and my Diablo is on its way, just in time for Christmas. He told me that it has the new pivot pin, so as you can see Allen is constantly developing his work. More to follow, hopefully soon
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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
hi i have several of allens knives including his diablo, the only anodizing is on the spacers which are blue, the clip is best described as an open design which is burnished titanium as the rest of the knife, while the carbon fiber scales are intergated into the liners. I love the use of carbon fiber. I also have three sebenzas which are great knives, but for a little more money an Elishewitz is a better knife IMHO.
one last word this knife is rock solid and built like a tank.

Hey Jimmy O I hope you are enjoying those two Elishewitz autos you out bid me on early this year what a great by.

mike

[This message has been edited by miarrow (edited 15 December 1999).]

[This message has been edited by miarrow (edited 15 December 1999).]
 
Got my Diablo today, and it is all I had hoped for. But has anyone seen the latest on Allen's Site? Now that is Tactical!

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
I wrote up my impressions of The Diablo if you care to take a look.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA


 
stjames,

Thanks for the notes on your Diablo. I was curious if the clip interfered the grip. Sounds like a beautiful piece. If the Diablo ever strolls near a scanner I would love to see some details showing the thinness of the knife. I was going to place my order next month, but now with the teaser on the Elishewitz website about new models for 2000....
I envision more fitful dreams now ("Sebenza, no Diablo, no Apogee, no..AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH").

Many thanks,

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E. Larson
Edmonds, WA


 
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