Sal,Carlos, anyone......Para VS. Manix full size lock strength?

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which has the stronger lock? I have both and I gotta say that neither makes me worry but I know that Spyderco rated their locks at one point in time and am curious as to which one is rated the stronger lock.
 
Well, I can't say for strength, but for reliability, I don't have very much faith in lockbacks...stuff gets stuck in there and it might not lockup properly.

Also, I've never actually seen a liner broken...but after a few hard spine whacks, even some tough lockbacks break. That might be indicitive of strength.

But I have very contrary opinions about locks than most people.

Suffice to say, I'm sure the Manix is very trust worthy, but I'll take the para here...
 
Artfully Martial said:
Well, I can't say for strength, but for reliability, I don't have very much faith in lockbacks...stuff gets stuck in there and it might not lockup properly.

Also, I've never actually seen a liner broken...but after a few hard spine whacks, even some tough lockbacks break. That might be indicitive of strength.

But I have very contrary opinions about locks than most people.

Suffice to say, I'm sure the Manix is very trust worthy, but I'll take the para here...
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I'll sort of agree with you;)

I'd take a comp lock(on the proper side) over a lockback for reliability, because the comp lock seems to me to have less chances for error. I routinely clean my lockbacks, so failure isn't likely going to happen. But the comp lock is much lower maintenance.

But I hate liner locks, because I've had bad luck with them. So we differ in that opinion. I'm just afraid of them:eek:
 
Well, between you and me, I'm not a fan of liner locks either--I don't buy them at all anymore.

I just feel they're vastly underrated--I've personally had great experiences with the few liner locks I own, and still say that if you choose a quality knife and check the lockup, you're totally good to go.

It just so happens that they're arguably not as strong as many other types, AND they're also much less easy to use (with the exception of lockbacks). Compression locks and axis lock variants are all easier to use.
 
I find that you only lose a tenth or so of a second in speed in lockback one handed closing compared to compression, liner or axis, and opening a nice one (Manix, Chinook II, etc.) is every bit as fast.

As far as strength, nothing feels as strong to me as a lockback.
 
Really 0.1 second? Can you get a video of this for me? I'm a big studier of knife tricks, and I just can't imagine how this is done.
 
Manix has a lock strenght that is higher then the High heavy Duty standard. Iirc it has the strongest lock available on a Spyderco.
 
Mongo-man said:
Manix has a lock strenght that is higher then the High heavy Duty standard. Iirc it has the strongest lock available on a Spyderco.
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I thought the Chinook held that distinction?:confused:

Than again, the two share a very similar handle construction.
 
Artfully Martial said:
Well, I can't say for strength, but for reliability, I don't have very much faith in lockbacks...stuff gets stuck in there and it might not lockup properly.
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This is about the only problem I've ever had with a well-done lockback. I've found that in all the years I've carried many many lockbacks, it has never happened to me on a knife that's carried clipped to a pocket. But about once every year or two, I've had a lockback that was carried in-pocket have a piece of lint interfere with the lockup. So for me, I'd say: lockback is a great choice clipped, look elsewhere for in-pocket.
 
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