Satin Rat?

roshi

roshi

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First let me say that I just traded for a Howlin' Rat. It's a great knife! So far I've only used it around the kitchen. I really like the balance and handle. Allows the knife to cut like one much larger.

I have always liked the Busse Satin Jack except for the 1/4 inch thickness. I use knives for slicing not chopping. The SJ would be a perfect mid size knife if it was thinner.

Any chance of a Satin Rat in the near future in 3/16 101? I think the grooved micarta scales on the Satin Jack are the best scales I've ever used but based on the Howlin' Rat I'm sure a SRK "rubber" handle will work as well, maybe better.
 
To be honest we have a lot of knives in the planning stage, but we aren't sure what we'll end up releasing. We are currently excited about the line we have and hope to have some additions in the future but only time will tell what those models may be.

On another note the current SJ is made out of 3/16" INFI if you haven't had a chance to handle one you should check it out, the originals were 1/4" but the new ones are 3/16".

Glad you like the HR, keep us updated on its use.
 
What is it you guys like about the SJ? Blade shape, blade length, overall length? Just looking for some input.

Thanks
:D:D
 
Originally posted by Eric Isaacson
What is it you guys like about the SJ? Blade shape, blade length, overall length? Just looking for some input.

Thanks
:D:D
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Yes:D
I like the blade shape and length. A slicing edge on it would be ideal, and a slightly dropped handle. Ideally? Also add a thumb groove- not quite Groovemaster depth, but close...

THAT would be a great all-round knife...;)
 
I agree with Bobby B. I'd eliminate the ring and hole forward of the Satin Jack grip and substitute a choil similar to the Howlin' Rat. That and the shallow thumb groove that Bobby B asked for would allow some capability to choke up on the blade.

The slightly dropped handle would be ideal but if it costs too much I could pass on it. I would assume that you'd want to keep much of the shape of the SJ to minimize reprogramming your cutting machinery.

I would also like to see an option for no coating (on all your knives). Not a polished LE knife but just an unpolished uncoated knife. Maybe bead or vapor blasted finish. I like the look of steel and am willing to take the extra care to maintain it.

The Satin Rat should be a real slicer.

The original Satin Jack in 1/4 inch thickness was a small chopper, but too small for real chopping and too "fat" for slicing. The 3/16 SJ in INFI sounds nice but still prices out at $ 225. I'm looking for something for right around $ 100. Bigger than a Howlin' Rat smaller than a Camp Tramp. A trail knife that can be used for kitchen chores, self defense, and light camp chores. In my "kit" it would be one of three edged tools (folder, Satin Rat, small axe).

I realize that you will select new designs based on the their potential for volume sales. I do appreciate it that you take the time to ask for input.

Thanks!
 
Bobby and Roshi,
Thanks for the input, you both have some good ideas.

At this point we don't exactly know what will be next, but we always appreciate customer input.

:D:D
 
I,m gonna step up to the plate here and say, I'd like to see a Satin Rat w/o choil, in a 5" blade length. I'd "personally " perfer a 5/32 thickness, but the 3/16 and flat ground would more than serve.
Regards
Ravenn in Ky
 
I have no strong attachment to the choil and would certainly purchase a Satin Rat that didn't have one.

I'm assuming that one of the cost advantages in a Swamp Rat knife versus those magnificent but expensive Busse knives is to keep as many of dimensions intact that are already programmed for the comparable Busse. That would certainly make it easier for the elves that sneak in on nights and weekends to crank out Rats.

I also assume that the 3/16 (approximate) spec for Swamp Rat blade thickness is based on the available thickness of 101 stock.

Therefore a five inch 5/32's blade would cost out higher than a six inch 3/16's? Maybe I'm making this too complicated, sorry it's the mechanical engineer in me.

I have a Howlin' Rat. Blade length is 4 and 1/2. I don't see much advantage in a five inch Satin Rat. IMHO Ravenn would be surprised and pleased how well the Howlin' Rat cuts.

I'd still prefer a Satin Rat in the original image of a Satin Jack but six inches of 3/16 or less thickness in 101. That would put the Satin Rat between the Howlin' Rat at 4 1/2 and the Camp Tramp at 7 1/2.

Eric, you accepting pre-orders yet? :)
 
Call it the cheap skate in me, but the HR has about 4" of usable cutting edge, good for some, but removing the choil and allowing a "full" 4.5" of usable blade seem sto give the customer all the bang for his buck. A great design, but if I,m paying for a 4.5" of blade, give me 4.5" of cutting edge.
All things considered though, I,m still interested in fondling a HR, perhaps one must make sacrifices.
 
I'm with Roshi. 6" Satin Rat in 1/8 (preferred) or 3/16 stock, double-cut blast, choil and shallow thumb groove on spine.:cool:

It'll slice. It'll dice. And the price, yeah, that's nice.
 
I always felt the Basic 5 was a top notch size,and design . Really loved the Respirene handle. A real Grippy feel,just a bit too thick for my personal preferences.
 
3/16 (w or w/o choil - I personally like it) prefer dropped handle, a real slicer.
It would fit beautifully between the HR and CT...;)

C'mon Eric (and Jennifer!!!) you know you waaaaant it!!!:D :cool:
 
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