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Should I get Spyderco Endura or Cold Steel Broken skull?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by lonestar1979, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. lonestar1979

    lonestar1979

    Mar 2, 2014
    I had endura before but lost it,like lightweight knives.What are pros and cons of these two knives,and which one is better value for money?The knife will be used for cutting,not abused.I have no chance to see broken skull in person but have to order it online and that makes it difficult...How is cold steels cts-xhp compared to spydercos vg10?
     
  2. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero Triple B Handmade Knives, Big Brown Bear

    Mar 22, 2014
    The CTS XHP is better then the vg10
    .but there is more to a knife then the steel.

    I'd still rather have an Endura

    It deploys smoother, has a better pocket clip

    The BS is thinner though.

    Yea I'd still get an Endura.

    Get the ZDP189.

    You would love it
     
  3. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    On paper, the Broken Skull is the better value. I personally didn't notice much difference in the brief time I used Cts-xhp from CS, it was brief though. I've used lots of VG-10, much of it from Spyderco. I can't get past the big "Broken Skull" on the blade with a professional wrestler's name under it and CS as a company with their marketing is a bit embarrassing. If you can look past those things then go for it. I much prefer the Endura and Spyderco ingeneral. And over the Endura I prefer a Fully Serrated Pacific Salt. The Zome Endura's are pretty cool as well if you want some of that Tacticool goodness.

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  4. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    I have 2 Enduras and can only speak for them.....don't have any CS knives.
    They are excellent! Tough as nails! Not crazy bout VG10, so like Cray I would suggest ZDP. Amazing steel!
    Good luck!
    Joe
     
  5. Chris "Anagarika"

    Chris "Anagarika"

    Mar 7, 2001
    I remember you started good discussion on VG10 that I learnt from very much!
    Haven't tried CS CTS steel, but given your past experience, I'd say get E4 ZDP (or HAP40 if you can find one). Much better than VG10. The only thing CS definitely is better is the Demko's triad lock. Having said that, Spyderco Seki lockback has been fine tuned for years, so it'll work reliably as intended.
    I still an Endura guy though starting to like Stretch better ;).
     
  6. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    In a word, Endura. If I were you I would get the waved endura, that knife is pure gold.

    I'm not saying the broken skull isn't nice, but the Endura is a classic. VG10 is a great steel. It gets razor sharp easily and with just minor touch ups will hold that edge as long as you need.
     
  7. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    I hate to recommend a Cold Steel over a Spyderco. I really, really do. But if you don't mind the absurd name and marketing, the Broken Skull is just a better knife with better materials at a similar price.
     
  8. Saugiklis

    Saugiklis

    8
    Jan 11, 2012
    Broken skull all day long... :cool:
    It's way better cutter than the Endura and it's not noticeable in the pocket at all :cool:

    +Pluses against Endura+:
    Better steel
    Thinner behind the edge
    More cutting edge
    Thinner stock
    Lighter
    Way better lock
    Better deployment (smother)
    No blade play in any direction (Cant even force one)
    G10

    -Minuses against Endura-:
    DLC (for me minus, for someone else can be a plus)
    Ugly Broken Skull naming on the blade :jerkit:
    No lanyard hole
     
  9. ThePeacent

    ThePeacent

    Sep 15, 2013
    Two of the best folders from my two favorite companies...I have to say get both!
    But in all truth, I prefer the BS for thin and lightweight while still having a nice, long edge

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    The Endura will be better for tasks where the Spydiehole is advantageous (not getting in the way of the cut, using it with gloves, but both are a great choice and the Spydie will come in different steels in case you are a steel junkie.
    The two have different color options, and I like the DLC coating a lot.

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    If you wanna have a bite from both companies, I'd say like Craytab, get a Broken Skull and a Pacific Salt, which is essentially an Endura with different steel and some minor changes. Those are the two true winners in my book!

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  10. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    How is it a better cutter? I feel the spyderhole is a better opening method. That is just opinion, not objective.
     
  11. kurt6652

    kurt6652

    284
    Dec 9, 2008
    I thought that you posted before about owning both knives and that vq10 from spyderco is too soft. I have both knives and if I had to choose one it would be the broken skull, I like the blade shape, the dlc coating, cts xhp steel, g10 handle and the thinness of the broken skull.
     
  12. ourgon

    ourgon

    Feb 27, 2013
    Broken Skull. I had Endura with shitty backlock, never again.
     
  13. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Who are you replying to?
     
  14. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    All the spyderco back locks I've had (around 20, some over a decade old and hard used) have been just fine. Are you sure yours was real? Lots of fakes make it across the Atlantic. That and one bad example a bad knife does not make.
     
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  15. jstrange

    jstrange

    Mar 31, 2012
    I think the Broken Skull is the better knife, but I don't like blade coatings and billboards on the blade. I also much prefer the spydie-hole compared to thumb-studs. I have a BS that just sits in a drawer. With that said, the BS is a solid built, lightweight knife, and a wicked slicer. I don't think you can go wrong with either.
     
  16. ourgon

    ourgon

    Feb 27, 2013
    Endura was bought via offical dealer in my area. That knives are just finished like junk. It wasn't only me, I've heard about 2 other Enduras with poor fit&finish and blade play. When I dissasembled mine it was making impression of some amateur work in garage by 12 old kid. And lock bar barely was locking the blade, so I did some work with diamond file to fix it. I had Police SS too, with big blade play.
     
  17. T.K.C.

    T.K.C.

    May 7, 2005
    Endura!
     
  18. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    They both have handles with grooves that may or may not fit your hand the way you'd like.
    I haven't bought the Broken Skull because of the logo on the blade and because of the two large finger grooves that look like they would position my hand further back than I'd like with two fingers in the front groove and two in the rear. I like that symmetrical double groove style when the handle is shorter around 4". I have medium hands.
    I think the Tri-Ad lock is better than the lockback used on the Endura. If you're talking about more recent generations of lockbacks such as found on the Native 5 or Chaparral (that one uses an internal stop) then the advantage of the Tri-Ad lock is smaller. The lock on the Endura is unlikely to give you any trouble but it does not impart the same the level of confidence because of the relatively small amount of lockbar travel into the groove and because of the blade play that is ubiquitous on the Endura, Delica, Stretch and Caly series.
     
  19. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Sounds like you got a knock off. I don't know about your official dealer.
     
  20. ceptor781

    ceptor781

    735
    Feb 4, 2012
    Of the two I'd go with the BS. With a lock back style knife the triad beats Spyderco hands down and down l love Spyderco.
     

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