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Ok i checked the forums for a while and could not find much about this. I did find:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...-of-100-bainitic-knives.714039/#post-19605499
But it left me with more questions than answers and it is an old thread. soOOoo.....
Instead of buying Throwing knives I have been considering making my own. I have some experience (not enough) with metal working so i am not entirely new to the idea of working metal, but i am still fairly new to steel. That being said....
What do you guys think of using 2350 and heat treating to Bainite for throwing knives? I want a steel that is not too hard (to prevent chipping) and low maintenance (someone keeps leaving knives outside on the grass overnight after practice), and a 2350 nickel stainless seems to give me the best of both worlds on paper.
Is it even possible to retain a bainite core and edge quench? Theoretically i suppose that would give you the best of both worlds yes? But I think it would be hard if not impossible to do on something as small as a double edged throwing knife, right?
Even without the edge quench it seems to me like a bainite temper would be better for throwing knives since it makes the metal so durable.
A throwing knife does not need to keep a razor sharp edge yet needs to be shock resistant. Toughness and strength seem more important than having a super hard edge. Is bainite hard enough to prevent serious deformation of the edge or taking a bend on impact with a target? What kind of edge deformation or chipping can we expect from impact on bone, concrete, wood etc. Will a bainite throwing knife resist taking a bend like martensite? Will it shatter!?! I don't know! Do you? Can you even heat treat 2350 to bainite?
I mean it's one thing to hold onto a knife and baton it into a copper pipe or to cut silk mid air, and another to huck a knife at plywood or bone. Even with a straight throw the forces involved are fairly different.
Last but not least, the cost. Is it more expensive to make a throwing knife out of bainite steel, or to get them made from something exotic like titanium?
Please help. I would rather learn from your experience than bang my head against a wall for 20 years and 2 million dollars... lol
Thanks.
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...-of-100-bainitic-knives.714039/#post-19605499
But it left me with more questions than answers and it is an old thread. soOOoo.....
Instead of buying Throwing knives I have been considering making my own. I have some experience (not enough) with metal working so i am not entirely new to the idea of working metal, but i am still fairly new to steel. That being said....
What do you guys think of using 2350 and heat treating to Bainite for throwing knives? I want a steel that is not too hard (to prevent chipping) and low maintenance (someone keeps leaving knives outside on the grass overnight after practice), and a 2350 nickel stainless seems to give me the best of both worlds on paper.
Is it even possible to retain a bainite core and edge quench? Theoretically i suppose that would give you the best of both worlds yes? But I think it would be hard if not impossible to do on something as small as a double edged throwing knife, right?
Even without the edge quench it seems to me like a bainite temper would be better for throwing knives since it makes the metal so durable.
A throwing knife does not need to keep a razor sharp edge yet needs to be shock resistant. Toughness and strength seem more important than having a super hard edge. Is bainite hard enough to prevent serious deformation of the edge or taking a bend on impact with a target? What kind of edge deformation or chipping can we expect from impact on bone, concrete, wood etc. Will a bainite throwing knife resist taking a bend like martensite? Will it shatter!?! I don't know! Do you? Can you even heat treat 2350 to bainite?
I mean it's one thing to hold onto a knife and baton it into a copper pipe or to cut silk mid air, and another to huck a knife at plywood or bone. Even with a straight throw the forces involved are fairly different.
Last but not least, the cost. Is it more expensive to make a throwing knife out of bainite steel, or to get them made from something exotic like titanium?
Please help. I would rather learn from your experience than bang my head against a wall for 20 years and 2 million dollars... lol
Thanks.