the metal file in swisstool

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ckl

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so is this thing made by hardened steel?diffence kind of steel than the tool?
 
On my cybertool 41 and my workchamp, the file steel is definitely different (harder). I don't know what it is but it looks very different and cuts most metal very well.

Someone here might know what they use.
 
According to Victorinox, the metal file is case hardened. I do not know what kind of steel is used.

Regards,
FK
 
Case-hardened steels will tend to rust or stain. thats why these files are usually hard chrome plated.

Joe
 
JoeBW said:
Case-hardened steels will tend to rust or stain. thats why these files are usually hard chrome plated.

Joe
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remember it is a file,with a hard chrome plated.....so,if u use the metal file/saw heavily,isn't the plated will wear out easily? :barf:
 
ckl said:
remember it is a file,with a hard chrome plated.....so,if u use the metal file/saw heavily,isn't the plated will wear out easily? :barf:
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You seem to be overly concerned about corrosion and rust.
Have you had a multi-tool fail before? Do you live in a humid sea/ocean environment?

The file will not rust away... in fact you will probably wear it out first over 10-20 years before you have to really be concerned.
I have plenty of regular files that are orange and dark from corrosion (W1 or W2 non-stainless steel), but they still work just fine. You would have to try pretty hard to make a SAK file fail from corrosion.

Most (if not all) multi-tools from reputable manufacturers like Leatherman, SOG, and Victorinox are quite stainless. If you keep them clean and oil periodically, you should not have any problem, ever!
 
I used the file on my old wave yesterday to make a 1/4 hex bit adapter to fit in the new wave bit driver for using 1/4 sockets. Even ground the 1/4 square part down so it would close. Didnt hurt the file one bit. Defenitly a quality file. I like my idea so i think im gonna get another bit and make one that looks good on a bench grinder. Would would really nice with an XTI.
 
I use a file quite a bit and usually carry a 4 inch bastard file in a plastic sleeve in my shirt pocket, I feel it is better, cheaper and easier to replace that a file in a multitool, I used to wear down the files in SAKs pretty fast, the files in all of my multitools do seem better than those in the SAKs, I have Leatherman, Victorinox and Gerber.

Luis
 
guys,the the steel of my spirit's metal file look very similar to the steel of the whole tool........

so is it still a casehardened steel or the stainless steel?

anyone know??
 
Hi ckl --

As far as I know, only Victorinox would have all of the specificity that you seem to require for the answer to your question about the SwissTool file. I think that you'll need to use the file to see whether it is capable for the needs that you have for the file, and the steel used, it's hardness, etc. take a second or third place to that.

GeoThorn
 
ckl said:
so is this thing made by hardened steel?diffence kind of steel than the tool?
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This was from a now defunked information page on Victorinox that used to be at this url:

http://www.abelit.fo/Victorinox/infoVICTORINOX.htm


QUOTE:
...facts

For both blades we use chrome molydenum stainless steel with 0.52% carbon, 15% chromium, 0.5% molydenum, 0.45% manganese and 0.6% silicium. After a sophisticated hardening process at 1040°C and an annealing temperature of 160°C the blades achieve a hardness of RC 56.

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The woodsaw, scissors and nail files have a hardness of RC 53, the screwdriver, tin opener and awl a hardness of RC 52, and the corkscrew and springs RC 49.

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The metal saw and file, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed und cut.
UNQUOTE
(I saved the page back in Nov/2004)

EDIT to add -

I found another page that has this same information at pizzini.at an on-line SAK vendor based in Austria:

http://www.pizzini.at/info_sak_engl.htm


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Vincent

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The metal saw and file, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed und cut.




thx,UnknownVT! :cool:

so far,i am looking for a 100% stainess steel tool,so i think only swis tool RS(no metal file)is. :eek:
 
ckl said:
The metal saw and file, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed und cut.




thx,UnknownVT! :cool:

so far,i am looking for a 100% stainess steel tool,so i think only swis tool RS(no metal file)is. :eek:
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Why does it need to be 100% "stainless"? ANY steel can rust in bad circumstances... why not get the best tool (with the best tools for your jobs) and just keep it clean?
 
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