Today, I learned something...

A.P.F.

A.P.F.

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...Paul Bos's treatment of CPM154 is nothing short of magical.

It all started when I decided to sharpen my Alpha Dorado. I decided that since it was 'only' CPM154, I would re-profile the edge to a 20 degree primary and a 25 degree secondary. I thought that this would be done in a jiffy with my Lansky Deluxe stones. After all, I used them to sharpen up my S90V Military with no problem and S30V was easy. So, expecting the CPM154 to be relatively soft, I started with a Medium stone. Quickly determining that the Medium would take a week, I switched to a Coarse stone. That was a bit better, but not enough. Finally, I switched to an Extra-Coarse and proceeded to move some metal. I went through all the grits down to Super-Fine and then stropped the edge. The procedure took me an hour and my hand is still numb!

Whatever Buck does to the CPM154 is nothing short of amazing. I knew there was a reason that I bought two BP110's and two BP Alpha Dorado's. I do believe that I have a new favorite steel. :)
 
A.P.F. said:
...Paul Bos's treatment of CPM154 is nothing short of magical.

It all started when I decided to sharpen my Alpha Dorado. I decided that since it was 'only' CPM154, I would re-profile the edge to a 20 degree primary and a 25 degree secondary. I thought that this would be done in a jiffy with my Lansky Deluxe stones. After all, I used them to sharpen up my S90V Military with no problem and S30V was easy. So, expecting the CPM154 to be relatively soft, I started with a Medium stone. Quickly determining that the Medium would take a week, I switched to a Coarse stone. That was a bit better, but not enough. Finally, I switched to an Extra-Coarse and proceeded to move some metal. I went through all the grits down to Super-Fine and then stropped the edge. The procedure took me an hour and my hand is still numb!

Whatever Buck does to the CPM154 is nothing short of amazing. I knew there was a reason that I bought two BP110's and two BP Alpha Dorado's. I do believe that I have a new favorite steel. :)
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Hang on to the 154 110's...Bass-Pro said that they have dropped them as of this weekend...salesman behind counter tried to order some and it said discontinued item....bummer:(
 
Evil Eye Earl said:
Hang on to the 154 110's...Bass-Pro said that they have dropped them as of this weekend...salesman behind counter tried to order some and it said discontinued item....bummer:(
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:eek::eek::eek: Thank God I grabbed two when I did! I hope they are not going to drop the Alpha Dor...argg! They are gone too! :(
 
APF, That steel is some good stuff . I too have reprofiled my BP 110 in that steel and it was not easy. I did mine on a Norton coarse 100g large stone then went to a DMT x-coarse and stropped. Even at this grit it cuts very smooth and holds an edge till the cows come home. An Alpha Durado ---I like that one too. Good taste! Once you get around to cutting some items let us know how it works. DM
 
If you are after an Alpha Dorado with CPM154, Cap, all is not lost. You can get one from Buck's 'Web Specials' page, for a while at least. :thumbup:
 
I picked up my Alpha Dorado from a BP about 6 months ago. At the time I was clueless about cpm 154 and Bos HT. Thanks to y'all I've learned a great deal. I love that knife, one of my fav Bucks..:D
 
David Martin said:
APF, That steel is some good stuff . I too have reprofiled my BP 110 in that steel and it was not easy. I did mine on a Norton coarse 100g large stone then went to a DMT x-coarse and stropped. Even at this grit it cuts very smooth and holds an edge till the cows come home. An Alpha Durado ---I like that one too. Good taste! Once you get around to cutting some item let us know how it works. DM
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Will do, David. I am chomping at the bit to put this bad boy to work!
 
A.P.F. said:
If you are after an Alpha Dorado with CPM154, Cap, all is not lost. You can get one from Buck's 'Web Specials' page, for a while at least. :thumbup:
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Sorry buddy, those havent been in stock for a couple months:( I intended to pick one up but by the time I got the cash, they were out:grumpy:. I check a couple times a week and no dice. I hope they come back.
 
imafritz said:
Sorry buddy, those havent been in stock for a couple months:( I intended to pick one up but by the time I got the cash, they were out:grumpy:. I check a couple times a week and no dice. I hope they come back.
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*sigh* Perhaps I better double down on my AG series too. :(
 
The BP 110 with CPM154 is one of my favorites. Wonderful steel.

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David Martin said:
Tony, I agree. Are you a Butler Bulldogs fan? DM
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How could I not be???? Born and raised in Indiana. I work in Indianapolis for the company that coach Brad Stevens used to work for (with many Butler Alumni...including ex football lineman). Quick history lesson...Butler plays in Hinkle Fieldhouse that was for many years the largest basketball facility in the U.S. Why was it called "Hinkle"? Tony Hinkle was the long time coach at Butler being crowned national champ once. Tony Hinkle was one of the people that determined the basketball should be orange rather than dark brown! Hinkle Fieldhouse was the long time home of the Indiana high school Final Four. That time period included the actual "Milan Miracle" that provided the story line for the movie Hoosiers which was actually filmed in the fieldhouse.


Back to the original subject...In my opinon...for whatever reason...the BP110 is the smoothest and has the best fit and finish of any other retail 110. CPM154 steel takes a very nice edge that is easy to maintain. It may be hard to re-profile, but if you stay on top of it, it's an absolute pleasure to use.
 
Old news rehash. Yesterday found me at the local BP Shop... perusing the knives... then I saw it. On the display, a Buck 110 for $74.95! It has to be another one of the CPM154 variant - I'll have a 'spare'! WRONG! It was just a basic $44.95 110 - brighter 420HC blade - in the wrong spot. I waited while they checked stock - and found it's box with the sheath, in a drawer below the display. I explained that it was improperly priced - the dynamic duo, a man & a woman salesperson, waiting on me insisted it wa $74.95, the 'only' price they had 'ever' sold for. The lady went through the stockroom doors - and stood their, visiable to me as the door didn't close, and came back seconds later proclaiming that was all they had. Oddly, neither had ever heard of the 110 before I pointed the display one out to them in the case. I tried to explain that I was looking for a BP 'special' product - they looked at me like I was crazy. I tried to explain that Buck made 'custom' 110s, too - and took my koa/NS/teardrop Damascus from my pocket to show them. Almost in unison, they told me that my knife was not like their knife. Mental giants. They put the knife back over the $74.95 price - and went back to practicing their sharpening skills - on display knives - with a grinder. I was the only customer in the area - all the way through the firearms display - with a total of five more salespeople - and no customers. I felt like a leper.

Of course, I did answer the question re where the WallyWorld sporting goods clerks went - they are now at BP! Not likely that I will return. My collection of CPM154 110's remains at one.

Stainz
 
Good one, Stainz! It sure is a shame that BP dropped two of the best knives around and hired clerks whose I.Q. doesn't add up to the cost of a 110. Oh well, there is always Cabels's.
 
I had a similliar experience a couple of weeks back trying to find a BP 110 by calling the Atlanta BP store ! The guy on the phone didn't know anything about a Bass Pro exclusive Buck knife. Luckily I have one, But I kind of wanted another since they are discontinued.
My wife was up in Pigeon Forge Tenn. and stopped in SMKW and tried to find me a 110 that had an upgraded blade steel of S30V or anything slightly out of the ordinary. She called me while she talked to the counter guy and he just couldn't understand that there were many versions of Buck 110's that weren't the standard model. I've been around long enough to know not to expect too much from Knife shop and gun shop "Experts", so I know to just shine them on and keep on looking in another direction. Still it's a shame that these types have access to sharp and pointy things !:)
Lucky for us, There is the BCCI and they are still doing special runs of really cool 110's like the Heritage Micarta series! Got one coming !
Also, The build your own knife on the Buck Website is a great way to get an upgraded and special 110 that isn't overpriced .Got one ordered ! I do wish they would offer a couple of other blade choices like a Damascus and the old BG-42 again.
 
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