Urban Scout E&E Course

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Hey guys,

I promised I'd post a review when i got home so here it is.


On Point Tactical
http://www.onpointtactical.com/

the Course, Urban Scout Escape & Evade Course.


This course is incredible! highly recommended.

It's two days in a courseroom, 9-10 hours a day, then on the third day it's an all day field exercise that starts with you handcuffed and hooded and driven around then you have to escape and you spend all day evading bounty hunters who are hunting you down! It's pretty fricken sweet.


Some of the things the course covers, but not limited too.

lockpicking
getting out of handcuffs, zip ties, rope, duck tape,
Caches
Disguises
behavior
makeshift weapons
Planning and preparing
mindset
social engineering
obtaining transportation

and more!!

highly recommended, I took it in december and it was awesome!

Let me know if you guys have any questions!
 
DH1 said:
Could you expand a little on this?

The course sounds really informative:thumbup:
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I can, to an extent. I know all about social engineering. I don't however know what they specifically teach in that course.

The term social engineering arose out of the hacking underground scene back in the day of BBS systems and 2400 baud modems. Back then we called it the HPAV scene. Anyway... Social engineering is the way to get people to do stuff they normally wouldn't do.

In E&E that may be talking your way onto a bus with no money, or borrowing someones phone, or talking someone into hiding you.

The reason it is and was important to hacking and now days penetration testing (physical as well as digital) is that people are ALWAYS the weakest link of any system, thus the path of least resistance. It is often easier to talk your way in or out of something than doing it by force. :D
 
Horridus said:
I can, to an extent. I know all about social engineering. I don't however know what they specifically teach in that course.

The term social engineering arose out of the hacking underground scene back in the day of BBS systems and 2400 baud modems. Back then we called it the HPAV scene. Anyway... Social engineering is the way to get people to do stuff they normally wouldn't do.

In E&E that may be talking your way onto a bus with no money, or borrowing someones phone, or talking someone into hiding you.

The reason it is and was important to hacking and now days penetration testing (physical as well as digital) is that people are ALWAYS the weakest link of any system, thus the path of least resistance. It is often easier to talk your way in or out of something than doing it by force. :D
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I understand now...I always think of social engineering as on a larger scale...like groups trying to "engineer" a community into what they want without them knowing. But in an E&E situation it's a lot more personal:D
 
Horridus said:
I can, to an extent. I know all about social engineering. I don't however know what they specifically teach in that course.

The term social engineering arose out of the hacking underground scene back in the day of BBS systems and 2400 baud modems. Back then we called it the HPAV scene. Anyway... Social engineering is the way to get people to do stuff they normally wouldn't do.

In E&E that may be talking your way onto a bus with no money, or borrowing someones phone, or talking someone into hiding you.

The reason it is and was important to hacking and now days penetration testing (physical as well as digital) is that people are ALWAYS the weakest link of any system, thus the path of least resistance. It is often easier to talk your way in or out of something than doing it by force. :D
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I work in IT, MS in MIS/ Information Assurance concentration. I've taken lots of courses about security, physical and virtual.

You'd be surprised about what information or items people will tell/give you if you approach the situation correctly.

I believe Kevin Mitnick, one of the most famous 'hackers', didn't even hack.....he got all of his information from social engineering....passwords, access codes etc..... People are stupid and being able to exploit them for your benefit is a great skill to have.
 
obsessis said:
I work in IT, MS in MIS/ Information Assurance concentration. I've taken lots of courses about security, physical and virtual.

You'd be surprised about what information or items people will tell/give you if you approach the situation correctly.

I believe Kevin Mitnick, one of the most famous 'hackers', didn't even hack.....he got all of his information from social engineering....passwords, access codes etc..... People are stupid and being able to exploit them for your benefit is a great skill to have.
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I'm not in IT, per se, but I can tell you i rely on social engineering in my line of employment nearly every day. You're absolutely right on all counts!
 
This is a very interesting school, they've got some really cool looking courses. If only I had some money, they offer this course in July just across the border in Seattle:(
 
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