Violence on TV

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I just watched a triple homicide and a woman slowly die of a staph infection in the matter of 30 minutes.

I watch a lot of deaths on TV every day. Do you think there is anything to psychological damage caused by this?

TF
 
Repeated exposure is numbing just like any other activity. Sort of like psychological calluses. For the average person, not a problem, but with individuals without a complete and solid grasp of reality, you're looking at potential problems.

Used to be, when a kid got mad, he'd start a fight with his fists, now, it's all about drive-by's

J-
 
Not if it is a fictional show. Violent cartoons never damaged anyone who watched the roadrunner or the old Tom & Jerry stuff either. Now if it is a real show, I think you can be affected more readily 'cause you know it is the real deal.
 
Not if it is a fictional show. Violent cartoons never damaged anyone who watched the roadrunner or the old Tom & Jerry stuff either. Now if it is a real show, I think you can be affected more readily 'cause you know it is the real deal.

That's a fact. I love gory movies, just laugh at them. When the director yells stop or cut, everyone gets up and heads to the next scene. No big deal.

Turned on the 10:00 news many years ago, saw some video footage from a squad car of a cop who got jumped, had his gun taken away, and was killed with it. He was off camera, but the shooter wasn't. It was very disturbing, I had trouble going to sleep that night. I still think about it sometimes.
 
Isn't there enough violence on television without having it in real life too???
 
There certainly is something to it, Talfuchre. But it's more complex than saying that violent TV does or does not promote violence or psychological harm in viewers. I have taught courses on this sort of thing.

The main issue, in my opinion (and this is supported by some good literature), is that the spectacle of death on TV is almost entirely decoupled from any deep context. In fact, the medium makes the meaningful exploration of context all but impossible, since it operates at a pace that guarantees that powerful material with complex content will be juxtaposed with shallow entertainment, scandal, and advertising.

With TV, you get 10 minutes of gut-wrenching, emotional news (perhaps something that strikes a chord at a personal level), followed by a car commercial and an advertisement for the next reality TV dance show.
When you get right down to it, it is a curious pathology of the modern condition that we can actually deal with and process this sort of media without going crazy. You tune in, have various emotional strings pulled, begin thinking about some important issues, and then tune out or get hit by a new stimulus. Sometimes, and especially when you are dealing with deep issues, the impact of the material will linger (as it should, when you think about it) after the programming has moved on, which it does almost instantaneously. Sure, we can engage with death in a purely desensitized fashion. But, at the same time, I think everyone would acknowledge that death is worthy of - and sometimes demands - deep contemplation and emotional engagement. Taken seriously, it also requires time and context. Contrast this with the treatment of death in the 24 hour news cycle, where someone is shot this morning, pronounced dead this afternoon, mourned this evening, and old news by tomorrow.

Additionally, programming structure ensures that only some acts of violence or death will be dealt with in anything approaching detail. So, following the adage "if it bleeds, it leads", we are exposed to some in-depth (but largely decontextualized) horror stories, while other events are reduced to bare-minimum statistics (remember 1/2 hour of the OJ Simpson trial coverage followed by two minutes on the situation in Rwanda?). Further, in contemporary media culture, the line between the accurate depiction of real deaths and the accurate depiction of deaths for entertainment purposes is so blurred as to be almost irrelevant.

Want to try an interesting exercise? Next time there is a tragic 'breaking news' event, go to the front page of one of the major news sites and do a 'screen capture'. Save the image and don't look at it for a few months. When you return to it, take a look at everything on the screen, and try to integrate it into a coherent narrative about society. Odds are that you will see the headline "Terrorists kill XYZ ..." along with a few related stories, some large pictures, and so on. At the same time, on the same page, you will probably find entertainment listings, links to movie reviews, human interest stories, and brief headlines about unimaginable atrocities occurring on the other side of the world. If you really try to step back and view things with a fresh pair of eyes, you have to conclude that this kind of news bombardment is more than a little absurd.

Anyway, I could go on about this for hours, but I worry that if I let my working life bleed into my BF time, the reverse will happen, and I'll find myself stroping a knife in front of a class of bewildered students. :D

All the best,

- Mike
 
It depresses me. I cannot think it is good for me overall.

TF

Same here...

I have taken to limiting the number and type of crime drama programs to those that have a lighter edge but truthfully the underlying premise is still murder and mayhem.

But the nightly news reports are without doubt the most disturbing of all.
 
The studies which try to show a relationship between violence viewed in entertainment (movies, TV, video games) and actual real-life violence are pretty sketchy at best.

The most that can be pointed to is an increased incidence of "agressive behavior" in young kids (mostly boys) after viewing/playing. Of course, young boys are pretty much full of agressive behavior anyway....

Most of us have a sound ability to separate fiction from real life. There are always going to be unbalanced individuals who can't....

Violence has been part of "media" since the Greeks, and likely before. Shakespeare was fond of equipping his actors with bladders filled with real blood and bits for authentic action scenes....

We humans have a certain innate level of violence.
 
I grew up watching violent movies/programs and it never made me any more violent; yet it can numb you to it. On the other hand, the kind of stuff that has gained popularity in recent years, such as the "torture porn" movies (Hostel, Saw, etc.) and the extremely graphically-detailed cop shows on TV, just go too far, IMO. Particularly if the (fictional) cop show is more realistic, like some of the Law and Order shows. I stopped watching those, because I watch to escape, and while I like many violent movies and shows, I don't find the ones that try to be too graphic and realistic to be entertaining.

Do violent movies, (c)rap music, and video games influence people to violence? I'm sure it can be a factor for some people. And there is already something wrong with them in the first place, if that's the case. I would say a huge factor is the deeply-entrenched 'gangsta' culture so popular with so many young people today. It's now completely mainstream, and I see many kids from the 'burbs who dress, talk, and saunter around like they think they're from the 'hood'. The 'thug life' has been glamourized as never before. Plus the fact that many kids and adults nowadays lack the psychological tools to properly deal with life. Add in parental coddling and/or neglect.

I remember when, if differences had to come to blows, a fistfight or tussel usually settled it. Nowadays, even if there is a fistfight with a winner, nothing is settled. The loser(s) will do a drive-by, a stabbing, or a school shooting. As for school shootings, the current trend of instant celebrity is also a big factor. These things did happen in the past, but now it seems the rule rather than the exception.
Jim
 
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