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Turkish Claws on Northern Iraq
Hurriyet ^ | 8/8/2002 | N/A


Posted on 08/07/2002 5:09 PM Pacific by a_Turk


The countdown is on for the US attack on Iraq. Turkey has taken position in Northern Iraq in a blitz.

As concerns of an imminent US attack on Iraq grow day by day, Turkey has secured the Critical Bamerni airport in Northern Iraq.

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Operational

Turkey has sent heavy machinery and electronic support equipment to the airport along with military and civil personnel who have made the airport available for military use in short order. Ankara, thereby, made it impossible for any other to strategically control the oil rich regions of Mosul and Kirkuk. Turkey has, additionally, established a umber of security checkpoints in northern Iraq.

Talabani explains

This surprize development was reported by PUK leader Celal Talabani, who had been in Ankara on 8/7.

Reports of 5000 Soldiers

The security apparatus inside Iraq was expanded to include a number of forward bases. According to unofficial sources, Turkey has about 5000 soldiers in the region.

Another unofficial report suggests that there are a few Americans who come and go to the Airport.
 
Looks like them Turks think things are getting down right serious. If they have secured a key airport they sure can not be on Saddams side of the fence.
Just don't lose it till the bees start buzzing.:)
 
Good report, thanks. There's been no love lost between Turkey and Iraq for some time now, but not everything that goes on gets reported.
When the time comes we'll go where we need to go and do what we need to do. Until then there's not much use in worrying. Who knows, maybe I can put off retirement a while longer:p

Sarge
 
Sounds like to me you don't believe in that old saying, "enough is enough". Who knows what the future will hold. there may be some fight where we least expect it yet.
 
Thanks n2s.

RE shorts--I'm thinking about suspenders and an extra pair--hope they are not needed.

Is there a link?
 
This:

"Hang on. We've got motion in your shorts."

Heehee! I was laughin' hard, the I re-read the topic title. Had a laugh, thot I'd share. Sell that line to the Viagra people.

Keith
En Ferro Veritas
 
"This:

"Hang on. We've got motion in your shorts."

Heehee! I was laughin' hard, the I re-read the topic title. Had a laugh, thot I'dshare. Sell that line to the Viagra people."

Or the Depends people.

BTW: Here's an interesting speculation that new non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse devices that generate huge microwave bursts might see use in Iraq:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992654

Not the greatest source for such information, I suspect, but there it is. Those deep bunkers might get mighty unpleasant without electricity.

They had better make sure any they use go off, so the technology isn't accessable--great terrorist weapon.
 
Another source reports on the capture of Bamerni airport and more:

"...First US Military Steps
In the past week, once those preparations were in place, the United States carried out two military operations:
1. Tuesday August 6, at 0800 hours Middle East time, US and British air bombers went into action and destroyed the Iraqi air command and control center at al-Nukhaib in the desert between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. The center contained advanced fiber optic networks recently installed by Chinese companies. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources say the raid made military history. For the first time, the US air force used new precision-guided bombs capable of locating and destroying fiber optic systems. The existence of such weaponry was hitherto unknown. Following the destruction of the facility, about 260 miles (415 kilometers), southwest of Baghdad, waves of US warplanes swept in from the Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia and from US aircraft carriers in the Gulf and flew over the Iraqi capital. The Iraqi air force and anti-aircraft system held their fire on orders from above. This deep air penetration told the Americans that the early warning radar system protecting Baghdad and its environs from intrusion by enemy aircraft and missiles was inactive.

2. Two days later, on Wednesday night, August 8, Turkey executed its first major military assault inside Iraq. DEBKAfile's military sources learn from Turkish and Kurdish informants that helicopters under US, British and Turkish warplane escort flew Turkish commandos to an operation for seizing the critical Bamerni airport in northern Iraq. This airport, just outside the Kurdish region, lies 50 miles north of the big Iraqi oil cities of the north, Kirkuk and Mosul. With the Turkish commandos was a group of US special forces officers and men. Bamerni airport was captured after a brief battle in which a unit of Iraqi armored defenders was destroyed, opening the airport for giant American and Turkish transports to deliver engineering units, heavy machinery and electronic support equipment, which were put to work at once on enlarging the field and widening its landing strips. The American unit, reinforced, went on to capture two small Iraqi military airfields nearby.

The Turkish expeditionary force in northern Iraq now numbers some 5,000 men, in addition to Turkish air force contingents...."

Still more at:

http://www.debka.com/

2nd story, right column.

I can't comment on the source except to say that I have seen them recommended by others several times.
 
Originally posted by Dave K
No one in that part of the world wants to mess with the turks.
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Served a year with the Turks on a Turkish Base, Eskisehir, 75-76.
They have a tight discipline! Ever see a man pistol whipped to the ground by the Sergeant, because the abbi didn't follow his orders or perform in the proper way? Picked him up and beat him down again. Did that 3 times. Then took him for medical care.
Served 3 years with the FAF - French AF, 62-65 no comparison with discipline, they just put them in jail for 30 days on bread and water for infractions.
 
firkin,

Debka is generally not very reliable. The Turkish part is probably true, as was the attack on the C&C site, but the overflight sounds way too fantastic. The Iraq and the UN would have been screaming murder if we had provoked them that way. We also did not test a new munition. If we had, we either would not have know about it now, or, the world would have been briefed by the Pentagon.

At any rate Saddam is now in his bunker. Perhaps one of his buddies will fill the entrance with a few hundred cubic yards of cement. Iraq can use a new royal tomb. :)

n2s
 
Thanks n2s.

The points you have mentioned struck me as kind of a stretch too.

Mass overflight sounded expensive, dangerous, and pointless if only to probe warning systems. Especially from Saudi Arabia.

I would be able to believe homing in on a booster station for a fiber-optic network, but the ability to do so wouldn't have anything to do with fiber-optics.
 
Originally posted by lcs37

Served a year with the Turks on a Turkish Base, Eskisehir, 75-76.
They have a tight discipline! Ever see a man pistol whipped to the ground by the Sergeant, because the abbi didn't follow his orders or perform in the proper way? Picked him up and beat him down again. Did that 3 times. Then took him for medical care.
Served 3 years with the FAF - French AF, 62-65 no comparison with discipline, they just put them in jail for 30 days on bread and water for infractions.
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Sounds like the Turks are kin to the ROK Marines from Korea. In Vietnam, they were the meanest, toughest SOB's I've ever seen. Absolutely no mercy on the enemy.
 
yor right there semperfi, the turks are a very tough, disiplined fighting force,an always have been, the aussies are and were always highly regarded for there toughness and fighting ability,in war.
but the turks gave us a whippin.but let me say they did so with honour,an that honour was returned by the aussies. today there is great respect from both sides for each other.
if the turks get stuck into iraq, they will be sorry indeed.
I JUST HOPE, sadam is deposed quickly so that there doesant have to be great loss of life on all sides.
i am a bit of a softy,an would never make a good combat soldier, every time i think of a soldier being killed, i think HE WAS someones son, brother, father,loved one. most are just doin there duty,every anzac day i cry thinkin about all those boys killed at 17-20 most of em , they didant even get a chance to live life. all i can say is thanks soldiers everywhere for there sacrifice, because of them we got to live good lives. somtimes war is a neccesity,
BUT ALWAYS TO BE DEPLORED.
peace unfortunatly is brought at the cost of many good mens lives.:( :( :) OOPS and women.:)
 
Thought of another practice, although it didn't happen while I was there. If a Turk NCO catches a sentry sleeping, proved by removing his weapon from him, he can beat the living **** of him; if a Turk Officer finds a sleeping sentry, once again by removing his weapon from him, he has the authority to use the sentry's own weapon and shoot him. Keeps your attention, I would think. DG
 
Friend of mine was in the marines (US). In training he leaned his rifle against a tree for all of two seconds, turned around and it was gone. When he went to the DI to report it, the DI said "Oh, you mean THIS rifle?", pulled it out and beat the crap out of my friend with it. My friend didn't need to be hospitalized though...
 
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