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Whats the term for a FAKE or practive balisong
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Get a cheap one and grind the point and edge off, then using a whetstone and alot of oil and time...slowly round all the flats created by the grinding off. When the edge and what is left of the point area is smooth as a bar of soap...you're done. You have a Trainer or as some refer to training knives...a Drone.
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Funny that the topic should come up.
The first question is why do you want a trainer? If you're just wanting to learn manipulation techniques, just put tape on the blade of your live knife.
Trainers are usually used for combative training and sparring.
The problem with making a trainer by grinding down a live blade is that you want the "edge" of a trainer to be quite thick. Even a dull edge will cut and scrape if it's thin. Furthermore, in lively sparring, a thin edge will chip when they hit together and a chipped dull blade becomes very much like a serrated blade. It'll tear you up pretty bad. (This is the falacy of Aluminum trainers. Yes, they're easy to make, but they quickly get banged up and nasty.) To get the edge of a live knife thick enough, you'll probably have to grind off about half of it. And then there's the tip. You want a really rounded tip on a trainer because even a dull point will stab right into a person if there's any force behind it. So, to adequately round the tip, you'll have to remove to much of the length of the blade.
A few weeks ago, I ordered a cheapie trainer balisong from I&I Sports. I've long wanted a balisong trainer. I thought, "Yes, it's a cheapie, but it'll be good enough."
Well, I just got back from one of the legendary Saturday Knife Seminars at API Combative Arts in Portland and I'm disappointed to report that one of the handles broke in only my second match. So, even if you were able to reprofile the blade of a cheapie balisong adequately, I doubt seriously that they're up to the demands of serious edged-weapons combatives.
I'll post some pictures when I get my camera back (which should be very soon now).
The first question is why do you want a trainer? If you're just wanting to learn manipulation techniques, just put tape on the blade of your live knife.
Trainers are usually used for combative training and sparring.
The problem with making a trainer by grinding down a live blade is that you want the "edge" of a trainer to be quite thick. Even a dull edge will cut and scrape if it's thin. Furthermore, in lively sparring, a thin edge will chip when they hit together and a chipped dull blade becomes very much like a serrated blade. It'll tear you up pretty bad. (This is the falacy of Aluminum trainers. Yes, they're easy to make, but they quickly get banged up and nasty.) To get the edge of a live knife thick enough, you'll probably have to grind off about half of it. And then there's the tip. You want a really rounded tip on a trainer because even a dull point will stab right into a person if there's any force behind it. So, to adequately round the tip, you'll have to remove to much of the length of the blade.
A few weeks ago, I ordered a cheapie trainer balisong from I&I Sports. I've long wanted a balisong trainer. I thought, "Yes, it's a cheapie, but it'll be good enough."
Well, I just got back from one of the legendary Saturday Knife Seminars at API Combative Arts in Portland and I'm disappointed to report that one of the handles broke in only my second match. So, even if you were able to reprofile the blade of a cheapie balisong adequately, I doubt seriously that they're up to the demands of serious edged-weapons combatives.
I'll post some pictures when I get my camera back (which should be very soon now).
lemme get this straight, you FIGHT WITH BALISONG? id so die even it if were fake or sparring id die! Btw how do you sparr with them? like swords? also i just want to do tricks. Id rather just have a fake one so no one could be like OUH real knife DIE!!
Well sorry for being crazy im just CRAZY EXCITED!
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I probably only died a hundred times or so this afternoon. That's very good. And, I lived up to my hard-won reputation as "The man of many disarms," by pulling off half of the afternoon's disarms. Nice.
I love a good knife fight when the blade are all dull and we can all sit around afterwards and laugh about our mistakes.
Every now and then, we get to try live machetes. That's when things get exciting.
It came in just a few days. I don't know what the shipping would be since it I ordered some other stuff with it. Overall, I&I is a good place. But, I would not suggest the balisong trainer. That was $12 wasted.
Hoiw do you die can you just run at them and stab them!? and if u try to disarm me ill poke your eyes out! also why not order it. I just bought my balisong like on tuesday. Im not very good i can only windmill and do the quiet opening. So why dont you reccomend it id only wanna practice tricks to get the ladies.
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Actually, I only really died big time a few times. I took one clean slash right across my stomach (fatal), and a few really good stabs to the chest. I managed to keep most of it on the outside of my arms, which is good.
You could try that, I suppose, but you'd probably end up flat on your stomach with your own knife used to impale you. There is technique involved here.
Ah, we have two rules. No groin strikes and no eye strikes (we wear protective eyewear too). In reality, the eye really isn't a good target anyway. It's very small and protected by the skeleton pretty well and even if you do stab it, it's not a very fatal strike. Fatality (for real) in a knife fight comes from either damage to internal organs or blood loss. The eye is not a vital organ. You can live without it. And, blood flow to it is not so great that a stabbed eye is going to bleed to death quickly. So, the eye isn't your best target.
There's a saying: in a real knife fight, the last man still bleeding is the winner.
The ladies I've fought, and we had one this evening though I didn't get to fight her, are some of the fiercest opponents and quick as lightening.
Seriously, if you're not wanting it for combatives, then the I&I trainer would be fine for $12.
CAn you throw the knife? also LOL "the last man still bleeding is the winner." hahahahah!
and when i mean get the ladies i mean id strut up and then start dazzaling them with my static throw under backhand around the middle through the front back side ways and then they would be mine! also i was thinking of getting the pasfic style trainer at knifezilla.com under new balisong.
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In my memory, nobody ever has. I'm not trained in knife throwing. That's an art in and of itself.
That's never worked for me.
You know, I just looked at that one.
You can read a review of the live version of that knife on my website. Look for the review title, "Chinese Sidewinder." The article will explain the title.
For the money, it's really a great buy.
But, the picture of the trainer version still has a very nasty point and appears to have an edge. It's possible that the picture they're showing is a live blade and that the trainer is different. Maybe someone here has one and can chime in with the details. I'd really like to find a good, stout trainer.
you dont need to learn just throw it at there stomach and hope it hits.
it looks wide enough to not give a cut i think its just lighting. And ii will check out your site
You ddint get the ladies? hmm did you make sure you did the sided static throw back hand manuver with a double flip or a single flip?
it looks wide enough to not give a cut i think its just lighting. And ii will check out your site
You ddint get the ladies? hmm did you make sure you did the sided static throw back hand manuver with a double flip or a single flip?
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Don't worry about the butterfly knives so much, I'm sure your buddies in middle school would be more impressed if you polished up on your grammar.
Originally posted by Chris Connolly
Don't worry about the butterfly knives so much, I'm sure your buddies in middle school would be more impressed if you polished up on your grammar.
lol sorry im not big on internet grammer, aslong as its eligable its fine. And im in highschool. lol middle school
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That's an even worse indication of the product of our education system. Remember, typed words are a major part of what we have to communicate with on this forum, so if you can't make an effort to type legibly, please don't. Typos are one thing, bad grammer and poor syntax is quite another. Also, please learn to edit the quotes in your replies (it's usually bad form to quote yourself). Thank you. BTW, welcome to the forum.
We now return you back to your regularly scheduled balisong topics, already in progress.
Whoops ok ill make bigger effort. Im still mastering english its pretty hard. Anyways whats a "syntax" and sorry for quoting myself. On a nother forum the reply button is always on top, so ithought i was quoting someone else. Im sorry ill make a good effort!
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yeah man, you gotta at least try and spell Legible correctly.
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I want you to really try to complete a post and spell every word correctly. I don't care about grammar, I just want to see if you can do it.