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Batoning - how much is too much?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Grease, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. Grease

    Grease

    May 10, 2012
    Apparently not this much :D

    That's about 8 inches of long-dead and very dried out pine.
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    This first couple inches on the outside weren't too bad...
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    But it got tough in the middle.
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    Victory!
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    That's a thick tree! And I just batoned through it :eek:
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    Last edited: Oct 27, 2012
  2. woody d

    woody d Banned BANNED

    Jan 29, 2010
    golf clap bud, you are one determined mofo...id have got sick of it and grabbed a saw :D
     
  3. FTR-14c

    FTR-14c Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 24, 2011
    Wow! Nice work and thats a tough spot just before that Y.
     
  4. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012
    My axe, hatchet, chainsaw, bowsaw, or pet beaver will do it much quicker with no chance of injury to me or my knife.
     
  5. Dorito Monk

    Dorito Monk

    Nov 17, 2008
    Batoning: Not even once.
     
  6. woody d

    woody d Banned BANNED

    Jan 29, 2010
    really? not even just to see what all the fuss is about?
     
  7. MAD777

    MAD777

    267
    Aug 3, 2011
    I saw up to 3" diameter wood with my Barca Laplander folding saw. Then use my baton with my 4.5" knife to split into kindling.
     
  8. 1SHOT1KILL

    1SHOT1KILL Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2009
    Any pics of the pet beaver:D
     
  9. Cyo

    Cyo Gold Member Gold Member

    203
    Apr 13, 2009
    Years of camping, hunting and canoeing and never heard of batoning until I came here. My grandfather was a professional scout master, my father and uncles eagle scouts, and my other grandfather a hard core country boy and do it yourself type and never once engaged in this activity or mentioned it. Knives were for cutting, axes and wedges were for splitting, and camp saws did the sawing. This is also why I fail to understand the 'hard use' mentality. I was taught to protect tools and only use them as intended. I've dressed plenty of deer, cleaned fish on rocks on the shore, prepared wood for fires in a driving rain, and chopped my way through an overgrown trail. However, I've never broken a knife or seen a knife broken during any outdoor activity, nor have I chipped out a blade.

    That's not to say people can't enjoy pounding away with their knives however they see fit. If your hobby is splitting logs with knives, I say have at it. It's just not something that I see that I'd ever need to do.
     
  10. wroughndt

    wroughndt

    Oct 31, 2011
    Last winter I had a hip replacement at the same time we moved into a new place with a small wood stove. Since I couldn't swing an axe I had to baton logs to start fires every morning. Never hurt any of my knives and its actually pretty quick. It does have its place and I'm glad I learned about it on here.... Otherwise it would have been a tough winter.
     
  11. Grease

    Grease

    May 10, 2012
    Yeah, I know. I really just wanted to do it so I could say I did it. :p

    Not sure about the hatchet though. A kukri and a baton should be about equal to a good hatchet...

    I certainly wouldn't try that with any of my other knives (except maybe my Esee-5, on smaller logs...) Kukris just scream "chop with me! I want to be an axe!"
     
  12. james terrio

    james terrio Sharpest Knife in the Light Socket Moderator

    Apr 15, 2010
    I find the whole controversy about batonning terribly amusing. Not since "carbon vs. stainless" or perhaps "large knife vs. axe" has such a simple topic caused so much polarization and chest-thumping on both sides.

    It flat-out works if done right, it can be disastrous if done wrong. Why so many people take it so personally, I will never understand.
     
  13. woody d

    woody d Banned BANNED

    Jan 29, 2010
    i also had never heard of it until joining here a couple years back and while its not ideal, it does work. not something id do with many of my knives, but i will admit ive spent many evenings with my Beckers splitting wood for the firepit in the front yard. i like how i can sit in a lawn chair and casually pound away without too much effort while participating in "fireside chat". aside from my old school stepdad, most folks dont pay much attention to what im doing, as long i keep the fire burning.
    he is also one of the "you need an axe to split wood" type, but evidently Jim has became interested in trying it out as well...one afternoon this summer i caught him in the yard with my BK2 giving it a try LOL... maybe i'll get the guy a couple Beckers for Christmas, hes already got enough axes/hatchets and splitting mauls.:D
     
  14. Ankerson

    Ankerson Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 2, 2002

    I don't either.

    If it's needed it can be done, kinda like walking compared to driving, people can walk if they want to rather than drive.

    It's all about choices.

    It's not a new thing either, the concept of splitting wood has been around for a VERY long time.
     
  15. Sonnydaze

    Sonnydaze Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 6, 2009
    Batoning is like messing around with your buddy's gf. You might get away with it...for a while.
     
  16. mete

    mete Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 10, 2003
    Batoning is done WITH the grain ,NOT cross grain !!! Cross grain is abuse !
    Batoning folders is ABUSE !!
    You can break a perfectly fine knife by batoning improperly !

    Cyo is right -respect your tools ,take good care of them ,don't abuse them. Learn the proper way to use them !!
     
  17. Halfneck

    Halfneck Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    OP - Always thought you batoned to split the log, not chop it?

    Regardless, the only time I have batoned a log was to prove a point. I took a partial tang Mora 760 MG and batoned a log just to prove that you don't need a 1/4" thick tree-beater to do it. In all my time in the woods I have never been in a situation where I had to baton a log. Not saying it isn't necessary, just that I've never needed it. I look at knowing how to baton logs as just another tool in the toolbox.
     
  18. Magnaminous_G

    Magnaminous_G

    Jul 13, 2011
    Everyone is free to bushcraft however they like. It's a free country. :D Personally, I consider batonning one of those bushcraft skills like turning a pant leg into a filter with layers of moss, sand, and pebbles and peeing in it to get consumable liquid: a skill that I know about and which could save my life, but which I'd prefer not to do. A small axe and/or folding saw processes wood very well.
     
  19. TheGame

    TheGame

    Sep 24, 2008
    I agree with the folders, and that this is not really batoning. However, I don't see how batoning should be considered abuse for fixed blades. Especially when I have asked the custom knife makers if they considered batoning abuse - and they don't. And if I broke one of the production knives batoning, they'd be replaced. Batoning isn't abusive if done properly. I really don't see why it's such a controversial topic.
     
  20. DPris

    DPris

    Nov 27, 2003
    Nice to try as a one-time experiment, but way the hell too much work for me. :)
    Denis
     

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