It seems that the existing rules cannot repel fakers and cloners. Why not introduce an appliance procedure for dealers ? The worst offenders could be easily weeded out before they set foot in the house. It certainly is easier to refuse access than to throw out someone who has already paid a membership.
I certainly do appreciate your answer. Thanks, sincerely.That's certainly an interesting thought. Considering the number of people who are in this thread claiming that they view a Dealer membership as some sort of endorsement, and that they look to the dealer list as a buying guide perhaps it's time to clearly delineate between who bought a membership, and who is actually a member of the community.
... perhaps it's time to clearly delineate between who bought a membership, and who is actually a member of the community.
Something separate, like a "preferred dealers list" based on community input and various other, yet to be determined, criteria?That's certainly an interesting thought. Considering the number of people who are in this thread claiming that they view a Dealer membership as some sort of endorsement, and that they look to the dealer list as a buying guide perhaps it's time to clearly delineate between who bought a membership, and who is actually a member of the community.
OK.I will answer your “blanket” question. I am not ok with any IP theft, if I know about it. That is my “blanket” answer.
I don't have time to PM & have a back and forth with multiple people covering the same topics going on in this thread. As for a "slap" imagine how I feel dealing with this thread & being compared to Judas Iscariot after what I've done for this community & industry.I asked you to PM me...one business owner (multiple businesses like yourself) to another. You decided not to take my offer but drag it out here. Then you asked another member to PM you. Felt like a slap in the face.
What you view as a "loophole" isn't your choice, or their's, to make. Period.As someone else pointed out, there is a loophole in the rules which would allow you to ban TM for things they do “off-site.”
I agree which is why, along with @topomart, a number of the people who helped create this situation are firmly on my radar.I think this situation could have been handled a lot better, and I don’t agree with some of the other posters here, so I didn’t like being accused of agreeing with other posters comments.
You chose to enter the ring after I made myself clear, don't complain when you are given personal attentionI never asked for “one-on-one” interaction, but you decided to engage with me.
This would have been wised advice for many people posting on this thread.All I am asking for is a little respect and decency when having a conversation with you.
Can't see the issue here. Clone seller basically wastes 350 bucks because they can't advertise most of their stock, and blade forums gains 350 bucks with no downside.
Seems like a genuine win win situation to me. Think most of you are just looking to fight about something.
I'm going to make a separate thread here in tech support for what this would entailLike, "advertise only" vs "go to trusted member" ? Sounds good. Disregard the words, keep the general idea.
Something separate, like a "preferred dealers list" based on community input and various other, yet to be determined, criteria?
At first blush, that sounds like a good idea.
OK.
I don't have time to PM & have a back and forth with multiple people covering the same topics going on in this thread. As for a "slap" imagine how I feel dealing with this thread & being compared to Judas Iscariot after what I've done for this community & industry.
What you view as a "loophole" isn't your choice, or their's, to make. Period.
I agree which is why, along with @topomart, a number of the people who helped create this situation are firmly on my radar.
You chose to enter the ring after I made myself clear, don't complain when you are given personal attention
This would have been wised advice for many people posting on this thread.
This post from earlier in the thread is one of the wisest:
I don't have a changelog with dates on the rules of the site. I'm not really interested in that either.So. We have banned discussion, sale, etc. of clones and counterfeits since when? That is the "line" generally agreed on, and apparently enforced here. I was under the impression that this was because the practice is seen as unethical. I could be mistaken.
I'm not surprised that some of you are unable to discern the difference between me being able to control what's done on this site and what happens off site.If even the discussion of these items is forbidden because it is seen as legitimizing or encouraging the practice of making them and therefore unethical (which I agree with) are you REALLY SURPRISED that BF taking money from a site that sells mostly or all clones is looked upon with suspicion or worse? Disappointment at the least. This just doesn't sit well with many and I'm sure you can see why. Yes, you make a logical argument for your decision (no clones/counterfeits on BF, their site you can't help) and I can see your point. But totally dismissing the other sides' point as not having ANY validity because you "can't police the internet" isn't really reasonable either.
This has been answered repeatedly in the thread. If you can't take the time to read & understand then you aren't being a productive contributor.Not talking about Strider SHOT BLADE blah blah blah. "Policing every vendor's site" or whatever. This site just sells clones and they are a BF dealer member.
The dealer list is not an endorsement list and you imposing conditions & demands on it that aren't promised or provided from our end is part of the problem here.And yes, the dealer list, whether officially or not, is looked at as an approval of sorts. "Support the dealers who support our forums." It's a symbiotic relationship. Like the clone thing, no links to or discussion of non-supporting dealers is allowed.
I'm not surprised that some of you are unable to discern the difference between me being able to control what's done on this site and what happens off site.
because that puts Spark back in the “policing activity which isn’t part of Bladeforums” camp.
Do you want the guy to start doing background checks, too?