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Knife Review: Puma TAC-1

Discussion in 'Knife Reviews & Testing' started by Alarion, Jul 16, 2002.

  1. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    I recently had the dubious privilege of handling the new Puma TAC-1 "tactical" knife...
    You can find a picture here:
    http://www.outdoormania.com/belt.htm

    Without judging the aesthetics of this knife, which are a pretty subjective matter, technically this knife can be summed up as the epitome of the hype-only no-quality knife.
    The only good thing is the grip, which would deserve a far better blade.
    The blade, though manufacturd out of high quality steel, has a weird shape, deprived of any functionality. The spur near the point impedes any real deep penetration in stabbing tests, the edge, though being chisel ground, a grind which supposedly offers a keener thinner edge, is thick as an axe and is more a wedge than an edge. The chisel grind, as always happens, has been ground on the WRONG side for a right handed user. All in all it seems a half finished slab of steel worked to look as a supposedly mean knife.
    Moreover the finish of the blade is messy, with ground marks going every way.
    The only judgement that can be given on this knife is: a waste of good steel.
    Another knife from the same firm, fitted with stag scales, had large gaps between tang and scales, mostly filled with some kind of plaster or epoxy paste, which left holes anyway. The blade was brush polished with brush marks going everywhere, moreover it was ground in such a way that the edge formed a very dull angle. Not good for a skinner, which was supposedly the task for which the knife was built.

    I'm very suprised of finding such [email protected] (because there is no other word to define these pieces) from a firm which was famous for producing very high quality knives.
    :(
     
  2. Danbo

    Danbo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 28, 1999
    Yeah, remember when Puma used to make good knives? Now, most of the stuff is plastic handled with poor fit and finish. :barf:
     
  3. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    It seems it depends upon the new "boss", which is the old owner's son...:rolleyes:
     
  4. Cliff Stamp

    Cliff Stamp Banned BANNED

    Oct 5, 1998
    Is there a secondary edge bevel? Have they said what is the purpose of that knob on the spine behind the point?

    -Cliff
     
  5. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    Yes, there is a secondary edge bevel (as if that dull wedge of a blade wasn't enough). In the picture at the URL I posted it's not readily visible, but you can definitely see it if you know it's there. They made no statement about what the stud on the blade is for...
    Here is all I could find on Puma website:


    "An excellent tactical, fixed bladed knife, used by the German Military. The sheath is made in two parts. The "Duty Clip" velcros around your belt and has a slot for the sheath to easily slide in or out. The strap which holds the knife in the sealth has a plastic "dog collar" type clip. The blade is 6.75" and the overall length is 13". The blade is stainless steel, with textured thermoplastic scales, and a cordura sheath with a quick release swivel belt attachment. "


    That is: hype, hype and more hype...
    I'd like to have some more documents about this alleged use by the German Military... :rolleyes:
     
  6. Crayola

    Crayola

    Sep 23, 1999
    Just a comment about chisel grinds...

    For a fighting knife, which i think is the intended use of that knife, the chisel grind ought to be on the left side: a.k.a. that knife is correctly ground for a right hander. With thrusts it doesn't matter much, but of you are slashing, your more powerful/natural slashes will be to the inside of your body, so the flat side of the knife will be on the bottom. That is what you want. Not for utility, a righty wants the grind on the other side, absolutely.
     
  7. dcjs

    dcjs

    25
    Mar 26, 2001

    total BS. both of it...;) :barf:
     
  8. fishface5

    fishface5

    Feb 3, 2001
    "The quality of the blade is of course "Rockwell" tested like all Puma knives."

    YEESH! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  9. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    Crayola, you are obviously right, but evidence makes me think this is only an accident, not a wanted characteristic, as the chisel grind is anyway useless if made that way, and prevents any multi-purpose use of the knife. There surely worst knives than this, just no one pops to mind right now :D
    The chisel grind has never been used historically, but on very rare weapons. There must be a reason for this, I think ;)
     
  10. cockroachfarm

    cockroachfarm

    Jan 6, 2001
    I assume Puma has an email address at which they can be contacted? (Sorry, I didn't scroll that far down the page - the typos and spelling errors started to make me a bit dizzy).

    If anyone has legitimate comments about design and quality issues, send 'em off to Puma. They're in business to make sales, to make a profit. If they can be made to understand that their current product line won't attract legitimate knife knuts and is more suited to the flea market crowd, they might take the hint. And if they don't, they deserve to suffer the same fate of any company that produces shoddy products.

    "You can only sell a bad product once."
     
  11. RHINOKNIVES

    RHINOKNIVES

    May 6, 2000
    that should account for the poor fit & finish. the reason the grind is on the wrong side is the same as most of the other "tactical" chisel grinds. when you hold it in your right hand you see the grinds and the logo WOW!
     
  12. Quiet Storm

    Quiet Storm

    May 17, 2002
    I would not buy a German knife at the moment. From what I read almost everywhere, they are overpriced while offering poor quality.
     
  13. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    They haven't said; but it is probably there to limit their liability. It makes the knife virtually useless as a weapon. Not that it was much of a knife to begin with.

    n2s
     
  14. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    BINGO!
    You said it as a joke, but maybe it's to prevent easy false edge sharpening...
    It may seem absurd but I've heard dumbest things made due to a law.
    I.e.: in germany you can't buy a black H&K USP or a Walther P99 because it's a military weapon.
    You can get the SAME weapon in GREEN hued plastic, as it's no more military... :rolleyes:
     
  15. Quiet Storm

    Quiet Storm

    May 17, 2002
    Disclaimer: IANAL

    Sorry, but this is not true.

    As long as you have a permission to own a firearm, the color of the handgun doesn´t matter at all.

    But military-looking rifles have to be modified to not look like an assault weapon anymore. For example, there is this HK self-loader (a modified version of the G36, the new assault rifle of the German military), which - besides other modifications - has to be painted grey to not resemble the military original.
     
  16. Alarion

    Alarion

    Nov 26, 2001
    That is, the color AND shape must be different...
    I know the rifle, here is imported in balck. It's a very fine 5.56 rifle, one of the best I've seen.
     
  17. Quiet Storm

    Quiet Storm

    May 17, 2002
    AFAIK that´s true with rifles, but the pistols you´ve mention are available in black for people with a permission to own a gun.
     
  18. Neomentat

    Neomentat

    534
    Jun 18, 2006
    the stub on the blade does have a purpose, it's to catch fish.

    This is supposed to be a combat/survival knife, and when you tie this blade to the end of a stick you have a spear. And that stub is supposed to hold the fish and other small games onto the spear.

    Now i don't know if this will actually work, I will have to test mine out next time i go camping.
     
  19. RedEdge77

    RedEdge77

    Jul 13, 2005
    Why do people bring up 4 year old threads? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Cliff Stamp

    Cliff Stamp Banned BANNED

    Oct 5, 1998
    He answered a question asked and provided relevant information to the thread. It would hardly be better to start another thread and make the comments there ghostsix style or not make the comments.

    Neomentat, have you used the knife signifiantly yet? Any comments?

    -Cliff
     

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