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LB7 Bear Paw LB Survey

Discussion in 'Schrade Knives Collectors Forum' started by Codger_64, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    One of the most often posted questions over the years has been regarding the LB7 stamps, pins, and serial numbers. I am fairly sure that many of you here now have one or more LB7s, and it would be of great help if you could list for me the serial numbers, pins, and tang stamps. My off-forum survey so far has proven inconclusive on dating the changes of the four main tangstamp variants, and how they relate to the pin changes, packaging, and serial numbers. Also, I have recorded a few (very few) LB8s with serials. If you would like to help, please list your knives this way:

    1. D25654 - four pin
    SCHRADE+
    U.S.A. LB7

    2. Q81829 - three pin
    SCHRADE+
    U.S.A. LB7

    3. AY81596 - three pin, MAC etch.
    Uncle Henry
    SCHRADE+
    LB7 U.S.A .

    4. No Ser# three pin, tan box
    Uncle Henry
    SCHRADE+
    LB7 U.S.A .

    Thanks!

    Michael
     
  2. Upstream

    Upstream Gold Member Gold Member

    741
    Jul 1, 2005
    None with serial numbers here. I feel like I'm missing out.

    1. No Ser# three pin, tan box
    Uncle Henry
    SCHRADE+
    LB7 U.S.A .

    2. No Ser# four pin, no box
    Schrade+
    U.S.A. LB7

    3. Maroon Micarta
    3 larger diameter n/s pins
    n/s bolsters
    Schrade+
    U.S.A. LTD
     
  3. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    I assure you, with three nice LB7 variants, you are not missing out! Every little bit helps with this too, even the ones with no serials. Can you post a pic of the four pin? I've only seen the delrin four pins with no serials until now.

    Michael
     
  4. Upstream

    Upstream Gold Member Gold Member

    741
    Jul 1, 2005
    It's a little hard to tell from the photo but these each have a very different grind on the blades. I really need to invest in a flat bed scanner one of these days.
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    The four pin came from Andy at Sportsnuts. I think he had alot of stuff from the factory clean out, so no telling for sure of it's history.
     
  5. muskrat man

    muskrat man Banned

    Aug 14, 2005
    AA23701-three pin
    SCHRADE+
    U.S.A. LB7


    AV62519-three pin
    Uncle Henry
    SCHRADE+
    LB7 U.S.A.
    MAC etch ( have a pic if needed)
     
  6. ducks_and_bucks66

    ducks_and_bucks66

    310
    Jan 15, 2007
    Here's a 4 pin and a 3 pin. I don't have any numbers on them and not sure how to find them.
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  7. muskrat man

    muskrat man Banned

    Aug 14, 2005
    the number if it has one should be on the underside of the right front bolster.
     
  8. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    Most SFO's and limited editions would not have serial numbers, unless stamped on the mark (nail nick) side of the bolster. Serialized production LB7s had them on the edge of that bolster per the picture below.

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    This is my earliest one, the 326th one made in 1977. This is an LB7NS SFO.

    Michael
     
  9. thawk

    thawk Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 28, 2006
    AV89094
    SCHRADE+
    U.S.A. LB7

    3 Pin
    White Box with Uncle Henry in script on top
     
  10. pwrstrk1

    pwrstrk1

    54
    Nov 5, 2006
    1. #6504 Limited Edition (On Blade) 3 Pin Schrade+ USA SC507 2. No Ser# 3 Pin Schrade+ USA SC507 3.No Ser# 4 Pin Schrade+ USA 507SC Came in a Uncle Henry box Tan Not sure if right box 4. No Ser# 3 Pin Schrade+ LB7 USA 5. No Serial# 3 Pin Schrade+ USA Limited (LB7DP)
     
  11. Bearlaker

    Bearlaker

    1
    Feb 25, 2007
    No Ser# three pin
    Uncle Henry
    SCHRADE+
    LB7 U.S.A
     
  12. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    #6504 Limited Edition (On Blade) 3 Pin
    Schrade+
    USA SC507

    No Ser# 3 Pin
    Schrade+
    USA SC507

    No Ser# 4 Pin Came in a Uncle Henry box Tan Not sure if right box
    Schrade+
    USA 507SC

    No Ser# 3 Pin
    Schrade+
    LB7 USA

    No Serial# 3 Pin LB7DP
    Schrade+
    USA Limited


    Thanks guys! No, the 'production scrims' won't usually have serials unless they were originally part of a set, in which case they should all have matching numbers. They did also sell many of them as singles. Here is a typical single Scrimshaw Of The Great American Outdoors box.
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  13. pwrstrk1

    pwrstrk1

    54
    Nov 5, 2006
    I don't know how to do that. I tried till I was green. Thanks. Matthew
     
  14. Here are a few that may help.

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  15. parnass

    parnass

    382
    Dec 6, 2005
    For both of the 2 rightmost knives in this photo:

    No serial numbers.
    3-pin
    Uncle Henry
    Schrade +

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  16. SAM58

    SAM58

    39
    May 30, 2005
    Codger with regards to your quest, I had to bug my boys to whip out their LB-7's bad boys for examination.

    Uncle Henry 3 Pin
    SCHRADE+
    #AY31346

    SCHRADE+ 3 Pin
    #R21734

    SCHRADE+ 4 Pin
    #46372

    I hope this helps, I was always wondering what the lettering in the serial number was for anyway. If SCHRADE went up to 100,000 or 1,000,000,000 and then started to go with the alpha numeric numbering system. I always thought the RXXXX was a replacement number for a lost or stolen knife. I sincerely hope that none of the knives I have listed are the SCHRADE stolen list, I would hate to have the new owners of Schrade try to take them back, they would have to pry them from my cold dead fingers. Thanks, Scott
     
  17. Larry303

    Larry303

    Jul 28, 2005
    Codger, My Serial Numbered Knives as requested. Is it possible to post that 4 pin LB 7 photo for me to support.Thanks.
    Schrade + 4 Pin
    Fancy Bolster #021250

    Schrade+ 4 pin
    #F9729

    Schrade + 4 pin
    #A25594

    Schrade + 4 pin
    #L71865

    Uncle Henry
    Schrade + 3 pin
    #Y4696

    Schrade+ 3 pin
    #W53545

    Schrade + 3 pin
    #T63610

    Codger those 2 Customs photos I sent are both bolster numbered as well, do you wish to post as well?
    Dark Custom Uncle Henry Schrade + 3 pin
    #AY 35502

    Light Custom Uncle Henry Schrade + 3 pin
    #AW 89707

    Re Boxes. I keep my Knives separate in one chest from boxes and sheathes in other chests. My dilemma will be in due course matching them all up so cant tell you exactly which boxes belong to 4 pins.I'm going to send lrv photo of all boxes in one photo! which should be interesting, and maybe all sheathes!At least I have kept paperwork in boxes. Trust this helps Hoo Roo
     
  18. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    So far, this is how the numbering system is shaking out:

    First serial numbers were four place digits. I have 0326, so there is a 0001 out there, possibly a 0000, and a 9999.

    Serials up to 17693 were produced in 1977.

    Serial numbers 17694 - 334585 were produced in 1978 when 316,892 LB7's were made.

    Serial numbers 334586 - 785250 were produced in 1979 when 450,665 LB7's were made.

    Highest all numeric would be six places, 999999. I have recorded serial number 914569. Thus the first million knives had no alphas. This point was reached some time in 1980. A total of 1,106,906 LB7's had been produced by the end of that year.

    When the single alphas were added, the serials still kept to six places max, so only 99,999 knives were made of each alpha. Lowest alpha recorded so far is A25594.

    When the rotation went to double alphas, the serials went to seven places. I've recorded BB56630 as the highest double alpha. Some time after this, the serialization ended.

    This is what I have so far.
     
  19. Larry303

    Larry303

    Jul 28, 2005
    Thanks Codger, I found 2 more I was about to post and one is higher than your BB post.
    Schrade + 3 pin #BB56630
    Schrade + 4 pin 742181.
     
  20. mhunter-51

    mhunter-51

    10
    Oct 5, 2006
    Hollow. I have three LB7's. The first is my user/every seasn 4 pin schrade+ with a s/n of c28691. Second is schrade+, no s/n, 3 pin, grey/black box and last 3pin, schrade+, no s/n and a blue/grey box.
     

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