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My First Case... with a scratch

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by JerryIsAlive, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    I am new to traditional knives. After doing some research, I decided on the Case SBJ with CV blades to be my first nice traditional. I just got it today and I love it. But I did notice a small scratch (?) on the blade. Is this normal? I doubt it is but figured I would ask. The scratch is hard to pick up with a fingernail so i dont think it is very deep, but it is definitely noticeable to the eye. My question is.. will this affect the usability or durability of the knife? If it will just affect the aesthetics, I can live with it, but I do not want to jeaopardize the future (or present) of the knife. Everything else with it is perfect. Worth sending back to either Case or the dealer? My only problem sending it back really is that I would be without the knife for quite some time as I wait out the process. What do you think? Does this type of scratch affect anything besides looks?




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  2. defaultuser

    defaultuser

    May 3, 2006
    Looks like the blade made contact with the liner?

    If you intend to use it, don't worry one bit. It will acquire many more scratches :D
     
  3. powernoodle

    powernoodle Power Member Gold Member Platinum Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    I don't think it has any affect on functionality, etc. It only affects your joy of the purchase and so forth. If you are going to use it, its going to develop its own scratches and marks and patina, and you might try to just ignore it until it is subsumed by the other dings and scratches you are going to put on it. But if it bothers you greatly - and I can understand why it would - it might be best just to send it back. So it really boils down to your comfort level. But I'd say it has no affect on function or durability or anything like that.
     
  4. Functionally, a non-issue most likely. Check to see if the edge itself is rubbing against a liner or adjacent blade. If the cutting edge is rubbing, then that could be an annoying maintenance issue, in keeping the edge sharp in that spot. Otherwise, if not rubbing the edge, I personally wouldn't worry about it.

    You might also look for a burr in the brass liner, if it's rubbing against one. That might be enough to leave a light mark on the polished blade. The brass is soft enough, it can't really abrade the steel deeply at all, but might just burnish the surface of it a little.

    Edit:
    Looking at the pic again, it looks as if the scratch extends in straight-arrow fashion directly perpendicular to the shoulder of the bevel. That may've been a stray particle of abrasive from the belt used to put the final edge on the blade, before it was shipped. If I recall correctly, Case puts the cutting edge on the blade using a wide belt grinder, in edge-leading orientation (belt moving into the cutting edge; this was on a video I've seen of their factory process). That would be the perfect setup to shoot a stray particle of the belt's abrasive up the side of the blade, from the shoulder.

    Most blade/liner rub marks are usually curved at least a little bit, which makes sense because the blade opens & closes in an arc.
     
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  5. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    Thanks for the replies. The scratch does not affect the edge itself, but stops right before it. My main concern was that it would affect the functionality of the blade, but not the look of it. One more question for you guys.. for now.. Are the blades supposed to be centered on this knife? As this is my first real traditional, Im not sure if multi-blade knives are supposed to have their blades centered as well. Sorry if a dumb question. The look of it doesnt really bother me, but if they are supposed to be centered, than that is what I would like.

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  6. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    The blade edge is close to the liner, but almost too close to tell if it is rubbing. Is there an easy way to determine whether it actually is or not?
     
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  7. Maybe mark or coat the blade/edge with something (Sharpie comes to mind), then open & close the blade a few times. Use a magnifier to see where the ink rubs off, if it does at all. The more I think about it, the more I think that might be a scratch from the final sharpening of the blade at the factory (I edited my earlier post & added a comment about this, if you hadn't seen the addition).
     
  8. Railsplitter

    Railsplitter Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2010
    Personally, I don't like the looks of those off centered blades. A little off center isn't bad but those are way over there.
     
  9. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    Are the blades on this knife supposed to be centered?
     
  10. Railsplitter

    Railsplitter Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2010
    Ideally, yes, but just like any other folder they aren't always.

    As mentioned, it won't hurt the function of the knife as long as the edge is not rubbing. Maybe it isn't as bad as your photos suggest but I would be concerned that the edge would rub eventually after repeated sharpenings.

    Those blades just look too far over against the liners to me.
     
  11. pwcb2005

    pwcb2005

    136
    Jan 2, 2011
    Ive had several Cases that have off centered blades/blade rub. Ones that are collectible, i sent back to Case and they handled it. The ones I use, i dont worry about it. But Case will fix it for free, if you want to wait for 6-8 weeks to get it back.
     
  12. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    They look ominously close to the liners. When pinching or nicking the blade open, you probably get rub marks - hence the scratch on the new blade.

    My Swaybacks have blades in the centre, where they should be. I'd return it and request a replacement, it's not good enough.

    Regards, Will
     
  13. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    Thanks for the fast replies guys. I was going to send it to Case, until I saw how long it takes. I got it through a popular online dealer. I have been in contact with them and they are giving me free shipping both ways and will replace the knife. I hate to be picky/anal, but I think Ill be happier in the long run if I just replace it now. Thanks again for helping out a noob.

    Gotta say tho, I love the knife and how it feels in the hand. Cant wait to get the replacement.
     
  14. mnblade

    mnblade

    Feb 7, 2000
    The scratch cited in the first post would be a non-issue for me. However, you made a good call returning a knife with blades that far off center. Before you know it, you'll be back in business.

    -- Mark
     
  15. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    ....and the replacement is in the mail. I plan on holding onto the "defective" knife until the new one comes in so I can compare/contrast. Thanks again fellers. Ill let y'all know how the replacement is.
     
  16. Railsplitter

    Railsplitter Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2010
    Good move. Sounds like you picked the right dealer too. :thumbup:
     
  17. Voodoosix

    Voodoosix

    127
    Jun 6, 2011
    you may also be inadvertently pushing the blade into the liner a bit when opening it, caught myself doing it with blades that werent even off center
     
  18. Pjake

    Pjake Gold Member Gold Member

    May 2, 2011
    You did the right thing replacing the knife. I purchased two peanuts from two different dealers several weeks back. They both arrived the same day and both had severe misalignment. They went directly to Case. Mary Ann and crew repaired the knives.... Just waiting for vacation week to end to get them back in the mail.

    I guess the lesson is buy in person when possible (advise I have heard many times on this forum). I am now willing to pay the extra $15 bucks or so for a Peanut to ensure fit and finish is where it needs to be.

    Enjoy your new knife.
    Peter
     
  19. thatotherguy

    thatotherguy

    Oct 9, 2011
    Remember, the only dumb question is the one not asked. You had a very valid concern, and you are asking questions about it. Not dumb at all. Hope your replacement is perfect, and I hope you enjoy your knife. Use it in good health :)
     
  20. JerryIsAlive

    JerryIsAlive

    648
    Jun 13, 2012
    So I got the replacement in.. The blades have no scratches and the knife seems great. The blades are centered (or lack there of) just like the last one, and it honestly doesnt bother me too much. For some reason, the scratch on the blade bothered me more than the off centered blades. I have noticed one thing though. When I open the primary blade from half stop to full, it doesnt have the sharp crisp click that I get when I open up the other one. What could cause this? Too much factory oil? Not enough? Something very satisfying and reassuring when I hear the click. The secondary blade on both of them dont have that crisp sound. But the "blemished" one definitely has a much louder "click" when opened than the new one. Any thoughts? Thanks guy
     

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