ok i have done some search here and some folks are get good results with this oil at 100 F. before i shell out the 40 dollars a gallon i want to make sure i am make a smart purchase. First of i mainly use 01 and make my knife very slowly and make them for friends and hunting buddies. I want to take my knifes to the next lvl and i think moving up to a proper oil will help much. Also i have avaliable to me is the John deere load shafts. Since my dad is a parts sales manager for john deere i get all the load shafts that get replaced in the shop. (free i may add). would this oil also work for a forged out blade 5160 or would another oil perform better? i looked at tough quench for it easy to get item unlike some of the other oils. Thanks for any and all thoughts.
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We like a slower quench oil for 52100 and 5160. Makes for tougher blades with these steels if you do your job.
Congradulations on the jd 5160, it is the cleanest most consistent 5160 I have ever worked with. You can push it to the extreemes of performance with slow quenching oil, I use Texaco Type A, it is not available, but there are some threads in this form that will lead you to a substitute.
Good Luck
Congradulations on the jd 5160, it is the cleanest most consistent 5160 I have ever worked with. You can push it to the extreemes of performance with slow quenching oil, I use Texaco Type A, it is not available, but there are some threads in this form that will lead you to a substitute.
Good Luck
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If your looking for a substitute for Texaco Type A quench you might want to try McMaster-Carr they have a quenching oil that seems to have very similar properties to Type A and you can buy it by the gallon if you want to check it out.
ok thanks for link better price but somewhat confused. They have standard oil which says 28 second , and high speed which is 10 second. i looked for heating temps on these before quech and came up blank . so does that mean room temp??. also i would assume that the high speed would work on the o1 and the slow on 5160 ? thanks
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The only time I used fast quench oils was with wire and layered Damascus or low carbon steel. I only made a few O1 blades, they did best with the slow oil. I would suggest an oil around 20 seconds for 01,5160 and 52100. You may have to play with different temps to get your blades to functioin as you would like them to.
Again - Experiment and take notes, test all blades for chip and cut, test a representative sample or experimental blades to destruction. Follow these little rules and you will be amazed how quick you will learn.
Ask the folks who sell the oil about temp. astm has lots of rules (fortunately) and they are available on request.
Again - Experiment and take notes, test all blades for chip and cut, test a representative sample or experimental blades to destruction. Follow these little rules and you will be amazed how quick you will learn.
Ask the folks who sell the oil about temp. astm has lots of rules (fortunately) and they are available on request.
well i went ahead and got the slow quench oil from macmaster-carr. after doing some more search and reading here i think this will work quite well i figure i can play with the numbers when i heat it up and figure out what is best temp. After much searching the internet i came to conclusion that it is next to impossible to get the texaco type a. i would have liked to tried it but oh well . im very sure the stuff from macmaster-carr will be a major improvement over the fully synthetic used diesel oil from my truck. thanks frogfish for the link and Mr Fowler