0560/0561 Longevity.

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So i am interested in getting on of the two but I'm hesitant because of the bearing pivot.
I'm afraid it will get clogged up and wont function like it should.

I'm wondering how is everyone's 0560/0561's holding up to daily use and pocket time.
especially the flipping.
 
I've been carrying mine since the beginning of the year, and I've never had a problem with it. In fact, one of my reasons why it's my favorite knife I have is because of those bearings. They are fantastic. I softly blow my knife down with an air compressor (very slightly) every once in a while. And I also take it apart to thoroughly clean it every now and again. I also have OCD tendencies...All in all, it's a wonderful knife definitely worth the value.
 
No problems with mine - has been my nite and weekend edc since receiving a few months ago.

A little gen maintenance along the way - very smooth opening.
 
ahh i see. that's good to know i don't think that i myself would attempt to take the knife apart but compressed air sounds like a good idea!


@ prelude92
you must be a huge fan of them lol, i can see you have three of them in your display Picture. :P
 
I'd say the lock bar will wear out long before the bearings do. As for gunk getting in, that would be a problem with any unsealed bearing system, but a quick dash under the faucet and a blow dryer will fix that.
 
Couldn't agree more with the above but also add...and if for some reason there would be an issue, KAI customer service is second to none in my book
 
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Mine is just fine. The bearing setup is actually very well done, they are cased in plastic washers that fills in the gap to help keep dirt and dust out, but are not "sealed" per-se, so you can wash them out, oil or grease helps slick them up while they break in, but they are plenty smooth dry afterwards, so nothing to attract dirt. My complaints with my 561 are few, pretty much minor gripes of an OCD knife knut. The lock bar is bare Ti, so it sticks, and can feel a little gritty closing as it grabs the blade tang, coated locks are way smoother, even a small patch of DLC on the locking surface would have helped, a steel insert would have been even better. Mine was tough to open with the studs when new(any pressure on the lock bar presses the detent tighter), wore the detent in with contant flipping over months, and both slicked it up and made it way easier to open with the studs, but it has slight up/down play when folded. The G10 scale also doesn't quite match the liner under it, and covered the lock a bit more than I liked, so I shaped it a little deeper to make the lock easier to reach at no expense to comfort. All in all it is a wonderful blade, and well worth the money, light for it's size, great blade shape and grind, definitely tough, and Elmax has really become my favorite steel. IT sharpens and polishes easily, gets a very fine hair popping edge, but is very tough, rust reistant, and holds and edge for a LONG time.
 
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I have carried my 0560 daily for about a year now and have never had a problem with deployment. I worked in a drop of Tuf-Glide on each side of the pivot when I got it. Since then the only maintenance I've done is blow the lint out with an air compressor and wipe the blade down about once a week.
 
Holds up great I have been carrying one at a farm for about 8 months. Occassionally blowing in it keeps it pretty smooth. About once every 3 or 4 months i will take it apart and just wipe the bearing washers off with a paper towel... Good as new.
 
All knives will pick up lint, dust and dirt from your pockets, But it's nothing hot water and Dawn can't fix. I use a small cheap ultrasonic jewelry cleaner with hot soapy water to clean my pocket knives.

Keep it clean and oiled and you will get many years of use out of it.
 
Some people feel that the titanium slab will wear because the bearings are harder than the titanium. This simply wont happen. Even if the titanium does wear to a degree it would probably wear a small channel in the titanium and work harden as it wears that small channel. Eventually creating its own work hardened bearing race. This however should ONLY happen if you constantly are tightening your pivot. You would tighten your pivot, it would wear in to the point that the pivot is no longer putting pressure against the bearings to push the bearings into the ti and then you would tighten the pivot again and repeat this process many many many many times until eventually you would get a small channel. Mind you that if you look at the IKBS website (yes its different than kvt but the same basic principal here still applies) They have a tutorial on how to do this very thing of creating a work hardened bearing race. And the difference in the gap between the handles after the cold rolling of the bearing race on both sides mind you was 0.001". So even if your bearings start to wear into the titanium its not going to wear out so to speak. It will get to a certain point and stop wearing as long as you dont tighten the pivot. And even if you do there will be a point were it will stop before any permanent damage can be done.
 
I hadn't really worried about the bearing race wearing. I figure the lock bar will wear out long before that happens.
 
I hadn't really worried about the bearing race wearing. I figure the lock bar will wear out long before that happens.

The lockbar probably won't wear out that fast either. It's carbidized and Titanium work hardens from what I hear so I doubt it's going to wear out anytime in the distant future.

I've flipped my 0561 probably over 2-3 thousand times, maybe more and it's been in the same spot for a very long time now.
 
I hadn't really worried about the bearing race wearing. I figure the lock bar will wear out long before that happens.

If lockbars wore from worrying we'd all be screwed. I say use it till it don't work no more and if you do wear it out (from use, not worrying) warranty is right there for you right?
 
The lockbar probably won't wear out that fast either. It's carbidized and Titanium work hardens from what I hear so I doubt it's going to wear out anytime in the distant future.

I've flipped my 0561 probably over 2-3 thousand times, maybe more and it's been in the same spot for a very long time now.

Mines at about 80% and if I tap it a few times on the spine of the blade it slides to 100%. It started out at about 40% so I don't know why it's worn that much. During the same period my Southard hasn't moved at all, and if anything I've flipped it more.

Update: I should also say that the ZT functions just fine. And it may not ever wear any further.
 
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Mines at about 80% and if I tap it a few times on the spine of the blade it slides to 100%. It started out at about 40% so I don't know why it's worn that much. During the same period my Southard hasn't moved at all, and if anything I've flipped it more.

Update: I should also say that the ZT functions just fine. And it may not ever wear any further.

ZT will be more than happy to take care of that. It sounds like it may be a hair short or something. Call them, its worth it. No need to settle for less than what they are capable of. Mine locks rock solid at about 60% and will not budge. Its got a years worth of EDC on it, probably more.
 
ZT will be more than happy to take care of that. It sounds like it may be a hair short or something. Call them, its worth it. No need to settle for less than what they are capable of. Mine locks rock solid at about 60% and will not budge. Its got a years worth of EDC on it, probably more.

I sent it in once and it came back with the same degree of lock. Since then have modified the blade with an Emerson wave which works quite well, so I don't know that it's still covered by warranty. I could call them, I guess. It's not the blade that's the problem.

I've been thinking about having a friend of mine recarbidize and "adjust" i the way he did with an Emerson. With that much cross-section carbidizing should add a fair amount of material and there are a few metal working tricks that can be used to lengthen the bar slightly. I sent two knives back to Kershaw with instructions on what was wrong and they were returned unchanged except for being resharpened. The form I sent was created by modifying their form using Adobe Acrobat so I could type the instructions in case my handwriting was hard to read. Perhaps that threw them off, though, and they thought the typing was part of the form. And perhaps they did try to fix things, but there was no itemization of what was done so I'm kind of in the dark there.
 
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