103 NAHC Counterfit?

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Couldn't find anything in our counterfit thread. Does anyone know if the Buck 103 with the NAHC blade etch has been counterfeited? Came across one today. Hard to put into words but just seemed hinky. "NAHC LTD" is etched on the tang instead of BUCK/103/USA stamped. Smooth sheath snap without "BUCK". Brown paperboard box with NAHC logo & text. I don't think the word BUCK appears anywhere on the knife, sheath, or box. It's subtle, I probably own dozens of 103's and have easily handled a thousand and this on just doesn't look or feel right in a way hard to put into words. Are any counterfits reported for this knife?

Here is a picture I found elsewhere on the net of a similar knife. Notice how square the guard is. The micarta (?) spacers are thicker and don't look Buckish either.

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Roger, I remember seeing those. I think they were a promo for a life membership to the North American Hunting Club in about 1981 or 82. I don't know if the knife was mfg. by Buck. Should we find otherwise, then I goofed. DM
 
If my memory serves me well some one several years ago posted a photo of two similar knives.

One of them was a Buck the other was a counterfit.
 
I would also say that one is a fake,lots of things look close but the guard is not rounded like it should be during final polish,the spacers look one off also.no tang stamp or model or buck name on it is also odd.then the sheath is double stitched with 2 rows of stitches,I've never seen any fixed blade buck sheath with 2 rows of stitching.
 
It looks fishy to me as well. All of the NAHC 103s I've seen have had a proper tang stamp.
 
Well, that was an interesting thread. I also did not know the 103 used to be a 110!
 
So, they are real.Thanks Haebbie for searching and finding that topic. Indeed the 110 was first a skinner. Later given the model #103. DM
 
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Good link haebbie. I couldn't find any previous threads myself. If BUCK's name is not on the knife, sheath, or box I guess it's not a counterfit but makes it a copy. I have 2 real Buck versions in my collection and can't find them (again, too many knives). I wonder if Buck made them originally and then NAHC cheaped out and started sourcing their own lower cost version in China avoiding infringement by not putting Buck's name on them.

Couldn't find a web site for NAHC but there seems to be a lot of negative stuff doing a google search.
 
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This has been an interesting thread and I myself have been going back and forth on if these were made by Buck or not. I did find a picture of one of these that did not have anything Buck on it and it was in a box but the box was not a Buck box. It was a tan box with "Hunting Heritage Knife Collection" printed on it. I believe these are a copy made overseas of the NAHC Buck 103.

I can't quite make out what the paperwork that is with the knife says but it for sure is not Bucks paperwork.
 
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I no longer have this one but here is what mine looked like. (Actually I just realized mine wasn't a "life member" one)

 
I just received a catalog in the mail yesterday with the OP's knife in question. I believe the price alone tells us that this is not a Buck made knife.

It is however a China made Buck look a like.

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It is not a counterfeit but just a look a like. It is being made in a Buck 103 pattern so maybe you could call it a counterfeit. There are sellers on the big auction site that state it as a Buck 103 as well as saying it is rare.

Maybe it is not being made as a counterfeit but being sold as one by the auction site sellers but it is not being called a Buck knife in the catalog.
 
As far as the big auction place, stay away from anything that say's "Rare" if you look there will be ten others just as rare. As a Life Member of NAHC joining in 1986 everything was fine until the original owners sold to some big outfit and then the magazines stopped comming, then the CS dept. disappeared and then so did the organization. So us Life Members have decided that the original people took the money and ran so far away there is noway to find them.

As far as the knife it's a Chinese repo. that SMKW is trying to sell as the real thing. NAHC probably has something to do with that also, since it is a repo of the original design. The real ones are tang stamped with the manufactures name and sometimes the model#. I have the complete Life Member set with sheaths and display case in my safe.
During this time I had someone connect to my bank account and was automatically paying their bills with my money and come to find out he was receiving MY NAHC magazine? Go figure?
 
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