105 Stag/Cherrywood... Help Please...

ItsTooEarly

ItsTooEarly

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Hello all, I'm trying to find out more info on this 105 Buck knife... So if anyone can tell me more about it, that would be great... Could this be a build out or a FB (Factory Blemish)??? The guy said that there was no other marking on the blade, but Buck/105/USA... But can't you take off the FB mark??? Or would FB or BO be on the Box??? Is it worth $75??? Thanks for your help... ITE

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Lucky 'E', A very handsome knife . Its got a year date on it . I couldn't quite read it but it looks like the arrow right . I don't know any more on that one . DM
 
David Martin said:
Lucky 'E', A very handsome knife . Its got a year date on it . I couldn't quite read it but it looks like the arrow right . I don't know any more on that one . DM
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I haven't bought yet... These are not my pics... I have to call and ask him what's next to the 105... Or is it an anvil... I didn't know if it was worth 75$ of not... He has no paper work for it... Just the box... But it sure looks good to me, so I think I will buy it for myself for Christmas... ITE ... :eek:
 
Plumberdv said:
Thats a Klinkhammer knife if I'm not mistaken. Here's a link to look at.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586722&highlight=klinkhammer
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Dave, thanks for the link... I thought it was a klinkhammer too... But there was No K and hammer on the tang... But EEE has a few knives with out the K and hammer on the tang... Than i see they used a green FB sticker on the box... So I wonder if they didn't etch the blades with a FB like they do now... :confused: ... ITE ...
 
ItsTooEarly said:
Dave, thanks for the link... I thought it was a klinkhammer too... But there was No K and hammer on the tang... But EEE has a few knives with out the K and hammer on the tang... Than i see they used a green FB sticker on the box... So I wonder if they didn't etch the blades with a FB like they do now... :confused: ... ITE ...
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It makes no sense to me that Buck would identify a factory blem ONLY by a green dot on the box. :confused: Having a couple of factory blems myself, I find it hard to believe that the stamp could be removed from the blade with out leaving some tell tale trace.

Does the green dot have FB in it, or are you assuming that's what it means? I have several knives with an orange dot on the box and have found out that those are from Walmart. Could the green dot possibly be another store identifier?

I'd pay more than $75 for it myself!:thumbup:
 
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It's a Klinkhammer, that was assembled using the correct handle parts, but the standard blades. Buck forgot to use the etched (Klink Logo) blades, and there was no way to add the etch after assembly.
Buck re-made the 105's with the correct blades. Harold bought the "rejects" and offered them for sale to the series subscribers first. I bought one, and consider mine part of the entire set.
There's also the original 102 (1st knife offered in the 1st Klink Series), which had handles assembled with a different spacer set-up than finally agreed upon for the series. The 102's were also re-made, so someone with a complete set would have 2 105's and 2 102's.
I saved all my e-mails to-from Harold during the evolution of the 2 Klink Series. Makes for some fun reading. Getting a project like that completed certainly tried his (and I guess Buck's) patience.
 
Looks good to me. Not sure about the price. Would look really good with one of the brown or burgundy sheaths.
 
RLF said:
IIRC
It's a Klinkhammer, that was assembled using the correct handle parts, but the standard blades. Buck forgot to use the etched (Klink Logo) blades, and there was no way to add the etch after assembly.
Buck re-made the 105's with the correct blades. Harold bought the "rejects" and offered them for sale to the series subscribers first. I bought one, and consider mine part of the entire set.
There's also the original 102 (1st knife offered in the 1st Klink Series), which had handles assembled with a different spacer set-up than finally agreed upon for the series. The 102's were also re-made, so someone with a complete set would have 2 105's and 2 102's.
I saved all my e-mails to-from Harold during the evolution of the 2 Klink Series. Makes for some fun reading. Getting a project like that completed certainly tried his (and I guess Buck's) patience.
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This is pretty much correct.
 
Plumberdv said:
What about the "green FB dot"? Is that a real thing?
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That is puzzleing. Not sure... the FB would have been engraved on the blade. We might have done that so we could tell which ones were not to spec. It's too early to think yet...
 
I will check tonight and see if any of my Klinkhamer's have FB on the boxes or knives.Don't remember any.
The pics I have are a few years old and I have "mysteriously acquired " :Da couple more.
The asking price is good.
 
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Update after checking my correspondence history with Mr. Klinkhamer (yes, only one "m"; my apologies to Harold for earlier mis-spelling):

The unique thing about the Klink Special 105's is that they were ordered as partially serrated, copying a detail that Buck had once added to the model. SO, in addition to using the wrong blade date stamp (supposed to be the anvil), and leaving off the Klink Special logo etch, the blades were not serrated!

Buck re-made the entire set. Buck gave Harold 1st shot at buying the mistakes, at a discounted price, and he turned around and offered them to his subscribers (@ $83 ea. by the way). This all went down in fall of '03. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the knives, aside from not meeting the Klink Special spec, so I don't see why any of them would be marked as blems.

You know, for someone who cares about the history, the mistakes somtimes turn out to be the valuable pieces.
 
Plumberdv said:
It makes no sense to me that Buck would identify a factory blem ONLY by a green dot on the box. :confused: Having a couple of factory blems myself, I find it hard to believe that the stamp could be removed from the blade with out leaving some tell tale trace.

Does the green dot have FB in it, or are you assuming that's what it means? I have several knives with an orange dot on the box and have found out that those are from Walmart. Could the green dot possibly be another store identifier?

I'd pay more than $75 for it myself!:thumbup:
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Dave, I got the green dot thing from the link you posted... I haven't seen the knife yet or the box... Only pics... But, I will try to ask him today if there is a green dot on the box... Well, if I can get a hold of him... I hope there is no green dot on the box... But if there is one, I'm going to buy it anyway... From what I can see it looks good to me... :thumbup:

Dave, this is from that link you posted... :eek:

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CDNWIDE
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: north of Detroit
Posts: 147

I've come across some Klinkhammer's that are cosmetically and structurally in mint condition. Yet, the box has a green "FB" sticky.Are these true fatory blems? Or, were the knives sold individually sold as factory blems?


Maybe EEE or some one can tell us more about this FB or a green dot with FB on it...

Thanks, ITE
 
I know this won't help a ton, but years back Buck had a run of FB knives, they sold at one of their factory sales. Mid 2000's I believe. Anyway, they were Buck Dorados, they had some sort of "rubber stamp" FB on them, and it was removable, so they were not always engraved. I believe Scott Hartman bought a few also, and they were beautiful knives. I gifted mine, but still have one sitting here in front of me. Buck used these to test where the BOS logo was to be placed on the smallish Dorado blade, and they were all stamped differently which was the only "flaw"

I would buy that 105 for that price ITE!! Good deal!
 
Klink put out two sets of this style of knife. One set like the one Armand has a photo of, cherry wood and Stag, and a second set with ironwood and stag. Each set had something like 9 or 10 knives to a full set.

I bought this one from one of the Buck factory sales lists. It was listed as a 124 blem for $80 on the list. It was one of the klink Ironwood 124's, the box was not marked as blem and the knife was not marked as a blem? It is the center knife in the photo below.
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Both sets are way cool. However, I like the look of the Ironwood better than the cherry wood version (But thats just me).
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ItsTooEarly said:
Dave, I got the green dot thing from the link you posted... I haven't seen the knife yet or the box... Only pics... But, I will try to ask him today if there is a green dot on the box... Well, if I can get a hold of him... I hope there is no green dot on the box... But if there is one, I'm going to buy it anyway... From what I can see it looks good to me... :thumbup:

Dave, this is from that link you posted... :eek:

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CDNWIDE
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: north of Detroit
Posts: 147

I've come across some Klinkhammer's that are cosmetically and structurally in mint condition. Yet, the box has a green "FB" sticky.Are these true fatory blems? Or, were the knives sold individually sold as factory blems?


Maybe EEE or some one can tell us more about this FB or a green dot with FB on it...

Thanks, ITE
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I asked ,sort of anyway, when Mr. Hubbard was on today. Do we know for SURE that a green sticker means FB? The FB's that I have say factory blem right on the box, no sticker of any color.
 
Some/all of the 124 model of the Klink Series II were rejected by Mr. K. because of issues with the epoxy at the joint between guard and handle. Mr. K was the final judge of acceptability, and he was tough on Buck in some cases, while protecting his customers.

As with the Series I 105 that kicked this off, those knives did not go down the assembly line in the same fashion as standard knives. So standard procedures for ID'ing Blems probably weren't an issue. For a custom design, created outside Buck, who's to say what's a Blem?
 
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